[Vision2020] The 2008 Legislature and SB1427 - When Idaho Gave a Damn

Wayne Price bear at moscow.com
Mon May 24 14:12:51 PDT 2010


And the answer to your specific question is YES, I do carry proof of  
my citizenship with me.

Wayne

On May 24, 2010, at 2:06 PM, jpool at moscow.com wrote:

> Wayne,
>
> One of the pertinent parts of my questions is (or at least is  
> implied):
> "Are you walking around with proof of your citizenship on your  
> person?"
>
> If you are stopped on the street RIGHT NOW, do you have proof beyond  
> all
> reasonable doubt that you are a legal citizen, *on your person?*
>
> As to the rest of your rant, how does it bear any reasonable  
> relationship
> to my post?
>
> John
>
>> John,
>>
>> Not everyone that is in favor of enforcing our federal immigration
>> laws is a "right-wingnut". Do I think that our current immigration
>> policy needs improvement, yes I do. I also think that
>> violations of federal law is not the way for illegal immigrants to
>> endear themselves to our lawmakers  and citizens when it comes to
>> those improvements.  None of us gets to pick and choose which
>> laws we personally feel we should not obey or get prosecuted for. The
>> laws are there for all of us, to be obeyed or not, and for us to
>> personally take the consequences for our actions.
>> And as far as being able to identify yourself as an American citizen,
>> yes I do have such documentation, so did my parents and my  
>> grandparents.
>>
>> Some questions to ponder: Do you think we should have open borders so
>> anyone can come and go as they please? Do you think that the 12-20
>> million estimated illegals should be granted a
>> blanket amnesty, even though they have in fact broken federal
>> immigration laws?
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 24, 2010, at 10:51 AM, John Pool wrote:
>>
>>> I wonder how many of us posting to The Viz walk around with papers
>>> that
>>> prove that we have a right to be here, and that our parents also  
>>> had/
>>> have a
>>> right to be here? Does State Senator Mike Jorgenson? Will these
>>> right-wingnuts bring about an ever-stronger movement towards a
>>> national
>>> identity card? Points to ponder.
>>>
>>> John Pool
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
>>> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
>>> ]
>>> On Behalf Of Tom Hansen
>>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:16 AM
>>> To: Moscow Vision 2020
>>> Subject: [Vision2020] The 2008 Legislature and SB1427 - When Idaho
>>> Gave a
>>> Damn
>>>
>>> Greetings Visionaires -
>>>
>>> As Idaho State Senator Mike Jorgenson (R-Hayden) vows to introduce
>>> legislation (if he is elected), identical to Arizona's "papers  
>>> please"
>>> immigration bill, a major unwelcomed step in returning Idaho to the
>>> days
>>> of white sheets and burning crosses . . .
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/2dkm8bs
>>>
>>> It is comforting to reflect back to the 2008 Idaho legislature and
>>> Senate
>>> Bill 1427.
>>>
>>> http://legislature.idaho.gov/legislation/2008/S1427.html#billtext
>>>
>>> HIGHER EDUCATION - Amends existing law relating to higher  
>>> education to
>>> revise residency requirements; and to provide for confidentiality of
>>> student information.
>>>
>>> . . .
>>>
>>> "Notwithstanding subsection (2) of this section, any student who
>>> meets all
>>> of the following requirements shall be exempt from paying the
>>> nonresident
>>> portion of total tuition:
>>>
>>>   (a)  Graduation from a public or private high  school  in  this
>>> state
>>> or attainment of the equivalent of a high school diploma in this
>>> state;
>>>
>>>   (b)  Continuous residence in this state for:
>>>
>>>         (i)   The three (3) years preceding the date of graduation  
>>> or
>>> receipt of the diploma equivalent, as applicable; and
>>>
>>>         (ii)  The  year  preceding  the  census  date of the  
>>> academic
>>> term in which the person is enrolled in an institution of
>>> higher  education; and
>>>
>>>   (c)  Registration  as  an  entering  student,  or current
>>> enrollment
>>> at an accredited institution of higher education in Idaho not  
>>> earlier
>>> than  the fall semester or quarter of the 2008-2009 academic year;  
>>> and
>>>
>>>   (d)  In the case of a person without lawful immigrant status in  
>>> the
>>> United States,  the  filing of an affidavit with the institution of
>>> higher education stating that the student has filed an  application
>>> to  legalize  the student's  immigration  status, or will file an
>>> application as soon as the student is eligible to do so."
>>>
>>> -----------------------------------
>>>
>>> Although this bill died in the House . . .
>>>
>>> Idaho Senate BIll 1427 of the 2008 Idaho state legislature, back  
>>> when
>>> Idaho cared, was strongly supported by our own local
>>> representatives . . .
>>> Shirley RIngo and Tom Trail.
>>>
>>> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>>>
>>> Tom Hansen
>>> Moscow, Idaho
>>>
>>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to
>>> change
>>> and the Realist adjusts his sails."
>>>
>>> - Unknown
>>>
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