[Vision2020] Otter fights health care with "sue the feds" law

[Andreas Schou]

Garrrett --

There are eight votes in the Senate for single-payer health reform. Eight.
It won't happen. It's the market or nothing. And "heightening the
contradictions" at the cost of human lives is profoundly immoral.

-- ACS

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Garrett Clevenger <garrettmc at verizon.net>wrote:

> Saundra writes:
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> "Obama couldn’t “insist” on a single-payer health care system without the
> support of a sufficient number of Dems & Repubs"
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> Obama could insist on truly meaningful reform instead of pandering to those
> who want any kind of reform which is what supporters of this bill seem to
> be. Supporters acknowledge the serious flaws, yet want it passed.
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> I would rather have no new law than one that is bad from the start.  That
> shouldn't be how we're governed.
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> I would rather start from scratch having the single payer be the concrete
> form of any reform.
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> From what I understand, it was under the whitehouse's behest that the
> senate bill took out the public option. That is Obama's call. He backed down
> from his public statement of wanting a public option.
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> You can't blame repubs for this bill, as none of them will probably vote
> for it.
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> This is all on the dems.  They are choosing the insurance mandate over the
> single payer alternative and they will probably face the the fate of what
> happened in Massachuchettes where there is an insurance mandate and where
> now a republic senator rules.
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> Do you really want to let repubs back in power just to pass a flawed law?
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> To think this law could be reformed if it passes is not realistic as how
> will they then break through the insurance industry's desire to keep getting
> guaranteed money?
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> Single-payer will never be a reality if this bill passes.
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> I want real reform, not mandated payments to middlemen...
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> Garrett Clevenger
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