[Vision2020] Purpose of Postings

Dan Carscallen areaman at moscow.com
Tue Dec 21 19:59:48 PST 2010


I don't recall the NSA posting anything here on the vizzz, and perhaps me calling you rude was a little harsh. I will commend your pitbull-like tenacity, though.

Perhaps I haven't criticized any alleged conservatives on the vizzz, but I think everyone else does a good enough job on the three of them.

And for some reason you like to throw that label on me. I think some of my "conservative" acquaintances might disagree, although compared to most on the vizzz I probably seem to fall somewhere to the right of the Archduke Ferdinand.

Anyhow, I guess I just felt you were looking for something that wasn't there in Jeff's posts, I think I know me well enough to think I'd do the same for you if I thought someone was doing the same with you.

And that last sentence is terrible, bit it gets my point across. Hopefully Mrs Hovey doesn't ding me too hard.

Your pal

DC

On Dec 21, 2010, at 19:42, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com> wrote:

> I said it seemed rude. I didn't say it was rude. I'm just asking for
> an explanation.
> 
> I find it interesting that you think I'm rude for asking questions but
> that NSA post is not rude for its violent rhetoric, insulting a bunch
> of folks who actually voted for you, including myself. In fact, though
> you have no problem criticizing me in public, I've never seen you say
> a single untoward thing toward any conservative. Doesn't matter what
> they do. That is pretty interesting, isn't it?
> 
> It seems that if Jeff wanted to start a new post about values,
> something I very much approve of, by the way, he could have done it in
> some other way. I'm just trying to find out why he did it this way.
> That is a reasonable question by any standard, especially standards on
> the V which seem to think that the defense of slavery is a reasonable
> position.
> 
> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Dan Carscallen <areaman at moscow.com> wrote:
>> Joe,
>> 
>> I think you're reading way too much into it. I'm pretty sure the vizzz is capable of more than one conversation at a time.
>> 
>> It is, after all, the Christmas season (or whatever you choose to celebrate this time of year) and that's usually when folks will throw out some sort of inspirational stuff.
>> 
>> Besides, you didn't get all over Tom for his "caturday" post, or admonish Deb and Wayne for their jabs at ITD.
>> 
>> I don't want to cast aspersions, but your accusation that Jeff was being rude is, well, rude.
>> 
>> Your pal
>> 
>> DC
>> 
>> On Dec 21, 2010, at 19:08, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> OK but could you just explain to me why you posted this in the middle
>>> of a discussion on freedom of expression? After all, the title of your
>>> initial post was "Values to Live By Freedom of expression" which is
>>> odd to say the least, if not rude. Either you just cut off a
>>> conversation or your post had something to do with Freedom of
>>> expression or something else, I know not what. I'm just trying to find
>>> out.
>>> 
>>> What was it about the discussion that led to this abrupt change of
>>> topic? What was it about sportsmanship, or values in general, that led
>>> to the post? On the face of it, it is a little like interrupting
>>> someone in the middle of a conversation with a quite different topic.
>>> Seems to me it would be considered rude by most standards.
>>> 
>>> Now maybe you have an explanation but to pretend that it does not seem
>>> odd or rude is just bizarre and not indicative of any of the values
>>> that you have posted about so far. I think an explanation is in order,
>>> maybe an apology. You make it seem as if I'm being untoward when all
>>> I'm doing is asking for an explanation of your odd and/or rude
>>> behavior.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Jeff Harkins <jeffh at moscow.com> wrote:
>>>> Verbatim - here is the posting I made for the first installment.
>>>> 
>>>> My curiosity about the recent plethora of media spots, billboards and ads by
>>>> the Foundation for a Better Life led me to their website at www.values.com
>>>> 
>>>> Their premise is that the values we live by are worth more when we "Pass
>>>> Them On".
>>>> 
>>>> Their view is that .. "everyone views the world through a unique lens" and a
>>>> Foundation objective "... is to provide a wide spectrum of values that are
>>>> universal, encouraging and inspiring."
>>>> 
>>>> They state that "(B)ecause values are worth more when we pass them on, The
>>>> Foundation for a Better Life chose these values to share with you... Pass It
>>>> On"
>>>> 
>>>> So, for the next several weeks, I will post one of their values and leave it
>>>> to you to ponder, post and/or pass it on.
>>>> 
>>>> I do encourage you all to visit their website - most inspiring.
>>>> 
>>>> End of first post - additional thoughts below.  Visit the website
>>>> www.values.com.  Peruse ... and you will find:
>>>> 
>>>> Values. No matter where we live, we live by values. Because they are worth
>>>> more when we pass them on, The Foundation For a Better Life chose these
>>>> values to share. Explore each value or suggest your own.
>>>> 
>>>> and
>>>> 
>>>> The Foundation for a Better Life began as a simple idea to promote positive
>>>> values. We believe that people are basically good and just need a reminder.
>>>> And that the values we live by are worth more when we pass them on.
>>>> 
>>>> and
>>>> 
>>>> Throughout this site, you can pass things on to your friends, family or
>>>> co-workers—anyone who might enjoy our site.
>>>> 
>>>> and
>>>> 
>>>> We want the stories we share about the positive actions and values of others
>>>> to serve as inspiration for someone to do one thing a little better, and
>>>> then pass on that inspiration. A few individuals living values-based lives
>>>> will collectively make the world a better place.
>>>> 
>>>> Therein lies my motivation - self examination (one value at a time) and
>>>> sharing.  Ah, the time you ask?  Well, retirement affords one the time to do
>>>> many things to which I am grateful.
>>>> 
>>>> Happy Holiday Season
>>>> 
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