[Vision2020] Racism Enshrined in Arizona Law

[Paul Rumelhart]

Perhaps we should convict the employers even if they didn't know that 
they hired an illegal alien.  It might make them care about due 
diligence when hiring someone a little bit more.  I imagine that most of 
these people aren't being paid at executive levels, they are probably 
being paid at much less than minimum wage.  That alone should be a sign 
that they don't have a legal status.  I don't think it's a case of 
employers being duped by devious immigrants, they are in this with their 
eyes wide open.

Paul

lfalen wrote:
> This sounds good on the face of it. The problem is in how do you known if they are an illegal alien? Will people have to produce some sort of proof that they are a legal resident? These documents can  and are  forged. I have no problem with convecting employers if it can be proven that they knowingly hired illegals. This may be hard to prove.
> Roger
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> From: "Mike Deleve" coolerfixer at roadrunner.com
> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 18:50:03 -0700
> To: "Wayne Price" bear at moscow.com,  "keely emerinemix" kjajmix1 at msn.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Racism Enshrined in Arizona Law
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>> It's incredibly easy. $100,000 mandatory fine with 1 year MANDATORY time in FEDERAL PRISON for anyone employing an illegal alien. Employers are taking advantage of the border jumpers, but the employment is why they come.
>>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>>   From: Wayne Price 
>>   To: keely emerinemix 
>>   Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com 
>>   Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 5:30 PM
>>   Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Racism Enshrined in Arizona Law
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>>   While I agree that this has opened a whole can of worms as far as profiling, DWM, etc, etc,  What can or should be done about ILLEGAL immigrants?
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>>   There is a process, for better or worse that allows folks that are not US citizens access to the US and to jobs in the US. From what I understand, the AZ law isn't going after
>>   those folks at all. It is focused on the illegal immigrants.
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>>   On Apr 23, 2010, at 3:26 PM, keely emerinemix wrote:
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>>     Arizona Governor Signs a Controversial Immigration Bill
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>>     > Gov. Jan Brewer of Arizona signed a bill that would require
>>     > the police to ask people about their immigration status if
>>     > officers have any reason to suspect that they are in the
>>     > country illegally.  (NY Times, April 23, 2010)
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>>     This is shameful.
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>>     "Any reason to suspect" that someone is in the country illegally means simply that "anyone who looks Mexican" could have their race, language, ethnicity, customs become probable cause for questioning.  The idea of "driving while Mexican" used to be a wry, sick joke.  Now, it's a cornerstone for "law and order," and it reeks.
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>>     I hope our local "Libertarians" and freedom lovers join me in condemning this bill with all vehemence.  Because if not, the silence from their keyboards, fieldhouses, and offices would be deafening, given the incessant braying recently about the State's denial of rights, pronounced threats to liberty, and an alarming erosion of Constitutional and family values.
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>>     Keely
>>     www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
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>>     Keely
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