[Vision2020] UI Safer With Moscow Police

[Wayne Price]

Wayne,

I think you have made a cogent and effective contribution to this  
discussion on the options that the university has toward on campus  
policing.
But one point is that they would not necessarily be a "private"  
agency, and could very well be a public law enforcement agency as some
university police departments are throughout the nation.


Wayne






On Apr 16, 2010, at 5:57 PM, Art Deco wrote:

> Choosing any has risks.
>
> I feel that the MPD has improved is several ways since David Duke  
> took over from Cameron Hershaw as assistant chief.  And the officer  
> who was in charge of the campus some time ago who smoked the weed is  
> gone.
>
> The MPD is not perfect, and I have been and still am a critic.  I  
> hope they can continue to improve.  However, the MPD have invested  
> in and continue to invest in training with some of it very  
> applicable to potential campus situations.
>
> I do not think that the UI has the monetary or management resources  
> to recruit, train, and maintain a viable, competent police force.   
> It is an undertaking which is more complex than it appears.
>
> In my years as both an employee and as a consultant my experience  
> has been that private security/policing firms at best are marginally  
> competent and marginally honest, and at worse more corrupt and more  
> incompetent than almost all public law enforcement agencies.
>
> Of course, when looking at bids, it is just not the price that is  
> important, but the quality.
>
> I know that there are some noteworthy issues about the present  
> campus policing.  I think the way to handle these are to communicate  
> regularly about them and work through them rather than buy a pig in  
> a poke.  Perhaps when President Nellis gets time after dealing with  
> issues and personnel problems bequeathed to him by the last  
> administration, he can set up some mechanism to insure that campus  
> policing by the MPD meets both the requirements of law and addresses  
> the safety issues of campus.
>
> Wayne A. Fox
> 1009 Karen Lane
> PO Box 9421
> Moscow, ID  83843
>
> waf at moscow.com
> 208 882-7975
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sunil Ramalingam
> Cc: vision 2020
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 5:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] UI Safer With Moscow Police
>
> I've just got to ask:
>
> Tom, when you ended one of your posts yesterday with
> "Enough EFFING said,"
>
> How was that not 'chest thumping'here on the Viz?
>
> The post below really strikes me as a Pot-Kettle scenario.
>
> Sunil
>
> > Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:55:39 -0700
> > From: thansen at moscow.com
> > To: bear at moscow.com
> > CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] UI Safer With Moscow Police
> >
> > Wayne Price Inquires:
> >
> > "So, you don't think a university police department can be competent
> > and be established without a disaster?
> > We have an example 7 miles away over in Pullman. Ever heard of the  
> WSU
> > Police Department or do you think they are a major disaster too?"
> >
> > Yes, Mr. Price. I have not only heard of the WSU police, I have read
> > about them for often than I care to.
> >
> > If you feel safer with rent-a-cops securing confines of UI,  
> campaign for
> > it, instead of "thumping your chest" here on the Viz, ok?
> >
> > Perhaps the powers that be should heed another old adage . . .
> >
> > "If it works, don't fix it."
> >
> > You might find yourself suffering from the cure.
> >
> > Enough said.
> >
> > Tom Hansen
> > Moscow, Idaho
> >
> > "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it  
> to change
> > and the Realist adjusts his sails."
> >
> > - Unknown
> >
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