[Vision2020] Say What?

[lfalen]

Keely
On your first paragraph see my reply to Wayne. I will acknowledge that some Socialist governments are peaceful, but most down through history have not been. In any case they place government over people not the other way around.
You completely misrepresent the Tea Patry. They are not primarily energized by hatred of the president. You should broaden your source of information . Instead of relying on Maddow, Mathews, Olbermann and the Huffington Post, I would recommend National Review or The Weekly Standard. If you would promise to read it, I would spring for the subscription. The last three meeting of The Palouse Liberty Project has been devoted to Austrian Economics. Nothing has been said about the President. They are opposed to large controlling government. Personalities or race has nothing to do with it. This is straight out of Saul Aulinsky" Rules for Radicals. Separate, demonise, Marginalize. You should get you facts straight before you slander people. I know that you are better than this. 
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From: keely emerinemix kjajmix1 at msn.com
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:05:02 -0700
To: lfalen at turbonet.com,  Chris Price bear at moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Say What?

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> To suggest that the Nazis were "on the left, not the right" is to confusion "National Socialism," the fascist party politics and hideous sociopolitical agenda of the Nazis, with "socialism," which in this world is generally expressed through egalitarian, peaceful social policies such as we see in the democratic socialist Scandinavian countries.  To jump to the conclusion that Nazis, however fascist, were "leftists" because their political party included the word "socialism" is naive to the point of incomprehensibility.
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> Please tell me how you can argue, Roger, that the Nazis were "on the left."  I'd also like to hear how a political movement -- the Tea Party -- primarily energized by a hatred of the President, not simply disdain for his policies, can legitimately claim to be "painted with a broad brush"  when others point out not only its raison d'etre, but legitimate examples of the bad behavior springing from it.
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> There are numerous conservative political organizations that have advocated for right-of-center politics without encouraging and attracting bigots, racists, nativists, and extremists of every right-wing sort.  They're not held in contempt by thinking people because they don't behave contemptibly, nor are their movements anything other than thoughtful attempts by people I happen to disagree with on most things to educate and agitate, reasonably, for their political agenda.   When the Tea Partyers decide to work for political change and not for the destruction of the President, his presidency, and the entire political process, the brush they're painted with may be one of "simply conservative" and not one of "rabidly given over to the worst tendencies of bigots."
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> Keely
> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
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> > Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:49:01 -0700
> > From: lfalen at turbonet.com
> > To: bear at moscow.com
> > CC: kjajmix1 at msn.com; thansen at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
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> > Here is the broad brush again. Incidently the Nazi's were on the left not the right.
> > Roger
> > -----Original message-----
> > From: Wayne Price bear at moscow.com
> > Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:29:49 -0700
> > To: lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
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> > > "They are like every other movement."   I'm sure there were good  
> > > Nazi's too!
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> > > On Mar 30, 2010, at 12:07 PM, lfalen wrote:
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> > > > They are like every other movement.
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