[Vision2020] Fwd: FW: Exxon Costs

[Ted Moffett]

Thanks for this information.

I was surprised to read that Exxon/Mobil is planning to build a new oil
refinery in Canada.  Do you know where and when this refinery is to be
built?  I was under the impression after discussions with oil industry
experts that using existing refineries in the US was cheaper than building
new refineries in Canada.

According to the source below, no new oil refinery has been approved in the
US since 1976, till this development:

http://www.bismarcktribune.com/articles/2009/09/02/news/opinion/editorials/doc4a9e78360118f333939616.txt

 Sep 02, 2009 - 09:05:16 CDT

No new oil refineries have been approved in the United States since 1976.
But last week,three federal agencies issued a final environment impact
statement for a 13,000-barrel per day clean fuels refinery proposed by the
Three Affiliated Tribes for a site near Makoti. The proposed refinery would
process pre-refined oil from Canadian tar sands into gasoline, diesel, jet
fuel and propane.
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Vision2020 Post: Ted Moffett

On 10/29/09, Tom Trail <ttrail at moscow.com> wrote:
>
> >Visionaires:
>
>
> This summer many of you may have noticed the work on Highway 12 between
> Lowell to the Montana border.  The project involves expanding the highway
> 2-4 feet and putting in new bridges and culverts.
>
> Exxon Mobil is paying all the costs and this is where the story becomes
> interesting.  Exxon is planning to build a oil refinery in southern Canada.
> The need to haul huge or large equipment and machinery by land.  They
> require a highway with no overpasses to imped hauling the equipment.  So
> Highway 12 passes the test.  The equipment will be barged to Lewiston
> and then by large trucks to the Montana border along Highway 12.  Exxon
> needed to make road improvements to do the job.  I assume they have
> secondary roads in Montana to make the remainder of the journey.
>
> I asked Jim Carpenter, Regional Director of ITD, to send me the information
> on the estimated cost of the project.  The amount is over $3.5 million
> which
> is a free gift to the citizens of Idaho.  Obviously Exxon got all of the
> necessary permits.
>
> Rep. Tom Trail
>
> >
> >Representative Trail,
> >
> >Below is the breakdown of costs that Exxon has spent in Idaho preparing
> >for the moving of the oil refinery modules.  My guess is all the
> >overhead expense were spent at locations other than in Idaho.  The
> >turnout costs they show reflect the regraveling of several turnouts that
> >we have.  The cable car cost is interesting.  This involves the little
> >tram that is privately owned that has an aerial crossing of US-12.  My
> >understanding is that the cost for this was a cash payment to the owner
> >to take down the tram until Exxon has moved its loads.   Jim Carpenter.
> >
> >_____________________________________________
> >From: Doral Hoff
> >Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 3:08 PM
> >To: Jim Carpenter
> >Subject: Exxon Costs
> >
> >
> >Jim,  The costs spent to date by Exxon in Idaho are total $3,520,400.
> >
> >The breakdown is as follows:
> >
> >Indirect and Overhead Costs    50.5%
> >Utility                                31.7%
> >Turnouts                       13.8%
> >Cable Car                      3.7%
> >Tree Trimming                  0.4%
> >                               100.1%
> >
> >
> >I suspect due to rounding is why it is greater than 100%
>
>
> --
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> Moscow, Id. 83843
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