[Vision2020] Question Concerning John Weber
Art Deco
deco at moscow.com
Wed Oct 28 20:59:18 PDT 2009
I'm sorry that liars and sneaks are OK with you as long as they allege to promote an agenda that you favor.
W.
----- Original Message -----
From: Darrell Keim
To: Art Deco
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Question Concerning John Weber
No, I saw that. Don't see the big deal.
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Art Deco <deco at moscow.com> wrote:
> Darrell,
>
> Apparently you missed this earlier post (please note the dates):
> ______________________________________________
>
> Email + Response:
>
> From: Wayne A. Fox [mailto:waf at moscow.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:25 PM
> To: Stephanie Kalasz; Gary Riedner
> Subject: Weber Bio
>
> Shouldn't Weber's bio on the City of Moscow website be updated?
>
>
> John Weber
> In November of 2005 John was elected to a four year term on the City
> Council. John is a lifelong resident of Moscow and graduated from Moscow
> High School and the University of Idaho. He has a Masters of Business
> Administration and is employed as a project manager here in Moscow. In his
> free time, John enjoys working on his Corvette and in the warmer weather is
> an avid golfer.
>
>
> Isn't he no longer a project manager, but a bartender at the Corner Club?
>
>
>
> Wayne A. Fox
> 1009 Karen Lane
> PO Box 9421
> Moscow, ID 83843
>
>
>
> waf at moscow.com
> 208 882-7975
>
>
> From: Gary Riedner
> To: Wayne A. Fox
> Cc: Stephanie Kalasz ; Laurie Lewis
> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:01 AM
> Subject: RE: Weber Bio
> Mr. Fox:
>
> Thank you for your observation. I will contact John Weber to see if he
> wishes to update his information.
>
> Gary J. Riedner
>
> City Supervisor
> 208-883-7006
> ______________________________________________
>
> The above exchange took place after Weber was no longer a project manager
> for Rich Beebe.
>
> Weber did not correct his official biography on the City of Moscow website
> after it was pointed out that he was no longer a project manager, but a
> bartender at The Corner Club.
>
> Continuing to claim to be a project manager when one is not is a misleading
> lie. The lie continues to this day:
> http://www.moscow.id.us/council/MeetCouncil.asp
>
> Continuing to claim being a project manager is more impressive than
> admitting the truth about being a bartender at one of Moscow's less upscale
> bars. There is nothing wrong with being a bartender; however such an
> occupation is not a very good recommendation for being mayor for a city the
> size of Moscow. There is something very wrong about Weber lying to Moscow
> citizens about continuing to be a project manager to falsely pump up his
> political resume. He lied about the Hawkins matter. How many other
> official lies has he told?
>
> [And do you not find it curious that Rich Beebe does not appear as an
> endorser on Weber's website?
> http://www.weber-mayor.com/weber-mayor_005.htm And don't some of the other
> names on the list of endorsements of Weber set off some really loud alarm
> bells?]
>
> Poor John is a pathetic case. Had he chosen to give up alcohol 30 years
> ago, he would now probably be an exemplary citizen with honorable political
> qualifications and would not have to lie, and probably would not act like
> the village nitwit in city council meetings.
>
> Weber was quoted in the Daily News as saying he wanted to "sell Moscow." He
> was probably reprimanded by the GMA gods for so stupidly and blatantly
> revealing their goals.
>
> But poor pathetic John is in the minor leagues of lying and being a sneak
> when it comes to some other current GMA endorsed candidates.
>
> For example, Walter Steed is a demonstrated sneak and liar.
>
> Why do you think the Idaho House Conservation and Resources Committee
> unanimously rejected his first bill to sell water to Hawkins? And the Idaho
> House Leader refused to even pass his second bill to committee? And even if
> the second bill had been sent to committee, it would have not been given a
> hearing?
>
> This is why:
>
> Steed lied to the house committee during his live testimony and afterward.
> He got caught lying big time. The committee was given documentary evidence
> demonstrating his lies. Steed's lies even so turned off one extreme free
> market representative that even he voted against it, although he was very in
> favor of it before the lies rained down.
>
> Steed lied from the beginning about the Hawkins deal. He convinced four of
> the Hawkins Five (all GMA approved) to spend money and Moscow city staff
> resources even after Hawkins drilled their own wells and were clearly not
> interested in Moscow water, and after it was clear that the Hawkins
> agreement was void ab initio, and thus unenforceable.
>
> I wouldn't trust these GMA endorsees to run a charity bingo game, let alone
> a city.
>
> Wayne A. Fox
> 1009 Karen Lane
> PO Box 9421
> Moscow, ID 83843
>
> waf at moscow.com
> 208 882-7975
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Darrell Keim
> To: Art Deco
> Cc: Vision 2020
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 5:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Question Concerning John Weber
> Wayne:
>
> His moscow.com bio may need updating. But, he can still claim the
> experience as a project manager, regardless of why he is no longer in
> that position. Why is adding a part-time barkeep position so
> important to you?
>
> Personal example: I resigned from a past position due to major
> ideological differences with management. None the less, I can still
> claim the experience of having done that job.
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Art Deco <deco at moscow.com> wrote:
>> Does this also mean that Weber will correct his official biography on the
>> Moscow.com site to reflect that he is no longer a project manager, but a
>> bartender at the Corner Club?
>>
>> W.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Greg Kimberling
>> To: 'Paul Rumelhart' ; 'Wayne Price' ; 'Darrell Keim'
>> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 1:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Question Concerning John Weber
>> Here is a response from John Weber:
>>
>> To Vision 2020 readers and participants; I regret the error on my
>> Weber-Mayor.com web page.
>>
>> I have never been Moscow's Police Chief nor have I ever been the attorney
>> for the City of Moscow. However I have been on the search committees that
>> helped fill these positions in the past.
>>
>> I would like to thank the Moscow citizens that caught this mistake and
>> gave me the opportunity to correct it, both on Vision 2020 and my web
>> page.
>>
>> If anyone would like to discuss this with me further, please contact me
>> at 208.882.6794.
>>
>> John Weber
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
>> On Behalf Of Paul Rumelhart
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:08 PM
>> To: Wayne Price; Darrell Keim
>> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Question Concerning John Weber
>>
>> Do we even know that he did the website himself?
>>
>> This seems like a lot of controversy over what might just be a simple typo
>> made by somebody else. Sure, he should fix it.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Question Concerning John Weber
>>> To: "Wayne Price" <bear at moscow.com>
>>> Cc: "vision2020 at moscow.com" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>> Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 10:09 AM
>>> Wayne:
>>>
>>> One can make valid points about Webers' attention to detail, citing
>>> this as an example. But, I contend it IS a whinefest if the error is
>>> not pointed out to the candidate.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Wayne Price <bear at moscow.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Darrell,
>>> >
>>> > NOT a whine-fest! That is how carefully he checked
>>> his own web page, no
>>> > one on the list did that for him!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Oct 28, 2009, at 8:27 AM, Darrell Keim wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Oh, definitely agreed that he needs to correct it.
>>> Did anyone think
>>> >> to point out the error to him? Or is this simply
>>> a v2020 winefest?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Joe Campbell
>>> <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I'm sure he's a nice guy too but he is still
>>> misrepresenting himself and
>>> >>> should change it asap. Joe
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Oct 28, 2009, at 8:18 AM, Darrell Keim
>>> <keim153 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Agreed: Missing a colon and/or
>>> indentation.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I have met John a few times. He seems to
>>> be a good man. I don't
>>> >>>> think he would intentionally misrepresent
>>> these basic facts about
>>> >>>> himself.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Sunil
>>> Ramalingam
>>> >>>> <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> I'm betting he was on the search
>>> committees for those positions, and is
>>> >>>>> missing a colon in the line above.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Sunil
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> From: bear at moscow.com
>>> >>>>>> To: thansen at moscow.com
>>> >>>>>> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:57:15
>>> -0700
>>> >>>>>> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Question
>>> Concerning John Weber
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Tom,
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> From reading that list he was
>>> everything in the city except Michael
>>> >>>>>> Jackson!
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> What a rube!
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Oct 28, 2009, at 6:59 AM, Tom
>>> Hansen wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Was John Weber ever Moscow's
>>> Police Chief and/or City Attorney as
>>> >>>>>>> reflected on his website at:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> http://www.weber-mayor.com/weber-mayor_003.htm
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Tom Hansen
>>> >>>>>>> Moscow, Idaho
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> "The Pessimist complains about
>>> the wind, the Optimist expects it to
>>> >>>>>>> change
>>> >>>>>>> and the Realist adjusts his
>>> sails."
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> - Unknown
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
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