[Vision2020] time to drink more Pepsi?

Wed Oct 7 09:18:22 PDT 2009

I haven't had any experience with PFLAG, and I support granting full civil and legal rights to GLBT couples; calling it "marriage" is no threat to mine at all, whereas injustice anywhere is a threat to everyone.

I wonder, Glenn, if you understand that even a 10-second search would lead one to conclude that civil unions and marriage have stabilizing effects on virtually any demographic, including the GLBT population.  A quick trip to the Bank of Common Sense would also, I suspect, lead you to figure that out.  You might not like the direction that the Bank of Common Sense and the scientific community point you to, but I would think that supporting stable, monogamous, loving relationships, between partners AND within their extended families, is a good thing if it leads any person, homo- or heterosexual, out of destructive, abusive, suicide-inducing and otherwise dangerous behavior.  I don't drink Pepsi (don't get me started; I think soda pop is of Satan . . . ), but I'm glad they're exhibiting good corporate citizenship.

And if, by chance, Pepsi Co. decided to support efforts to lead middle-aged men out of reckless, destructive, and indulgent patterns of living and into lifestyles that promote morality, health, respect of others, and overall physical and spiritual well-being, I'd applaud them.  

I've long been concerned about the "lifestyle" that leads to the smoking of cigars, the huge sausage/bacon/egg breakfast platters, the overconsumption of fine wine and stout beer, the gorging on candy with the little ones, and the enthusiastic, seemingly uninhibited embrace of feasting, feasts, festivals, and fudge.   After all, the effect on the heart is significant; the effect on the spiritual heart even more so.  Would Pepsi Co. ever be so brave as to take a corporate stand encouraging organizations that try to help those who so indulge,  or would they join the masses and crow about how their early deaths are all their fault?   

Keely
www.keely-prevailingwinds.com

> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:54:30 -0700
> From: vpschwaller at gmail.com
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] time to drink more Pepsi?
> 
> Mr/Ms Hendrickson states "This quote was too much for me to let slide
> through, "It's a medical fact that persons trapped in homosexuality
> are statistically higher to experience shortened life spans, clinical
> depression, drug and alcohol abuse, and life-ending diseases.  Why
> can't PepsiCo understand that is not a good cause to be supporting?"
> First of all, shortened life spans, clinical depression, drug and
> alcohol abuse, and life ending diseases, effect way more of the
> population than just gay people."
> 
> Fallacy one - Pepsi / AFA made no such statement that only gay people
> suffer from these afflictions, simply that there is a statistically
> higher instance among gays compared to "others".
> 
> Fallacy two - a short (10 minute search) of medical / psychological /
> epidemiological data bases shows there are studies addressing and
> supporting these claims.  And of course there are studies addressing
> and debunking these claims.  The point is, one should make at least
> some cursory attempt to see what arguments, both pro and con, are out
> there instead of spouting "it's pure nonsense."  Maybe it is.  Maybe
> it isn't.  Did you take even a moment to look for any medical facts
> one way or the other?
> 
> GS
> 
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Mo Hendrickson
> <hend5953 at vandals.uidaho.edu> wrote:
> >
> > I support the "homosexual agenda" do you think Pepsi will give me free
> > soda?  I went to the Boycott Pepsi website, it was the best laugh I have had
> > in a long time.  The "offensive" commercials were great, I really enjoyed
> > the one at the bottom. And well, Family Guy is an offensive and rude tv show
> > anyway, I think that part of its appeal, though I never really have watched
> > it.
> >
> > This quote was too much for me to let slide through, "It's a medical fact
> > that persons trapped in homosexuality are statistically higher to experience
> > shortened life spans, clinical depression, drug and alcohol abuse, and
> > life-ending diseases.  Why can't PepsiCo understand that is not a good cause
> > to be supporting?"  First of all, shortened life spans, clinical depression,
> > drug and alcohol abuse, and life ending diseases, effect way more of the
> > population than just gay people. Second, with people telling us that we are
> > sinful disgusting people who deserve to go to hell, its no wonder there are
> > substance abuse problems and depression.  The things people say and do,
> > thinking it is ok,  amazes me. When Christianity gets so twisted into
> > people's fear and ignorance, it becomes a very scary and destructive force.
> >
> > Seriously, even when I was at my most religious and conservative, I knew
> > that verbally abusing and threatening eternal damnation was not ok, it is
> > never ok.  No matter what you believe or feel about something it is never ok
> > to hurt another person, just to make yourself feel better, or in the name of
> > you god.  I wonder what would happen in our country and our world if we all
> > stopped thinking about ourselves for a day and focused on others.
> >
> > Anyway, enough rambling, time to eat lunch!
> >
> > -Mo
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: london at moscow.com
> > To: vision2020 at secure.fsr.com
> > Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:20:23 -0700
> > Subject: [Vision2020] time to drink more Pepsi?
> >
> > PepsiCo boycott petition reaches 500,000 signers
> >
> > American Family Association (AFA) says it has now secured over 500,000
> > signatures from those pledging to boycott the PepsiCo Company over its
> > continued support of same-sex marriage and homosexual advocacy.  AFA has
> > been promoting a boycott of PepsiCo since January, 2009.
> > AFA asked PepsiCo to be neutral in the culture war and not support the
> > homosexual agenda. PepsiCo refused. The company continues to give financial
> > support to homosexual organizations.
> > President Tim Wildmon says AFA is committed to the boycott as long as
> > PepsiCo is advancing a lifestyle that is extremely unhealthy and dangerous.
> > "It's a medical fact that persons trapped in homosexuality are statistically
> > higher to experience shortened life spans, clinical depression, drug and
> > alcohol abuse, and life-ending diseases.  Why can't PepsiCo understand that
> > is not a good cause to be supporting?"
> > PepsiCo gave $500,000 to Human Rights Campaign (HRC) and another $500,000 to
> > the Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays (PFLAG). The total of
> > $1,000,000 was used to help promote homosexuality in the workplace. HRC and
> > PFLAG were major supporters of the efforts to defeat Proposition 8 in
> > California, which defined marriage as being between a man and a woman. HRC
> > gave $2.3 million to the effort to defeat Prop 8.
> > For more information on PepsiCo's support for the homosexual agenda, go to
> > www.BoycottPepsico.com.
> >
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