[Vision2020] time to drink more Pepsi?

Wed Oct 7 09:02:33 PDT 2009

First, It isn't a "Medical Fact". It is a statistic. 

Second, statistically we should all be lesbians if we want to be safe from STDs and AIDS. Statistically, we should all be educated white men if we want to have health insurance. Statistically, we should not be born Black if we want to live old enough to collect Social Security. BUT FACT, we don't get to choose who we are. 

Finally, we can choose to deduce people to statistics and say one group of people is better over another because of the statistics. Or we can realize our bigotry and discrimination is what creates the disparities between two groups of people and correct our ways of thinking and acting to eliminate them. 

AFA contributes to the depression and drug use, advocates risky single life for gay men, and rejects them as human beings deserving of equality in a society. It is FACT that rejection by society increases depression and drug use.

MEDICAL FACT is that homosexuality is not a mental illness, and it is a MEDICAL FACT sexuality is not a choice. 

Donovan Arnold

--- On Wed, 10/7/09, Mo Hendrickson <hend5953 at vandals.uidaho.edu> wrote:

From: Mo Hendrickson <hend5953 at vandals.uidaho.edu>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] time to drink more Pepsi?
To: vpschwaller at gmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 3:33 PM

First - I was making anecdotal statements during my lunch hour, not really enough time to find all of the research and make a empirical argument against this statement.  

Second - How about you supply us with your 10 minute search results.  I would love to know what is out there. 

Third - I think you missed the greater points, or maybe I didn't communicate it well enough.    A.  That maybe there would not be such a high rate of these issues in the GLBT population, if, groups like the AFA and others did not try to make our lives harder on a regular basis.  B.  That it is not ok to treat an entire group of people like they are second class dirty, awful, sinful, disgusting people.  

-Mo

> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:54:30 -0700
> From: vpschwaller at gmail.com
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] time to drink more Pepsi?
> 
> Mr/Ms Hendrickson states "This quote was too much for me to let slide
> through, "It's a medical fact that persons trapped in homosexuality
> are statistically higher to experience shortened life spans, clinical
> depression, drug and alcohol abuse, and life-ending diseases. Why
> can't PepsiCo understand that is not a good cause to be supporting?"
> First of all, shortened life spans, clinical depression, drug and
> alcohol abuse, and life ending diseases, effect way more of the
> population than just gay people."
> 
> Fallacy one - Pepsi / AFA made no such statement that only gay people
> suffer from these afflictions, simply that there is a statistically
> higher instance among gays compared to "others".
> 
> Fallacy two - a short (10 minute search) of medical / psychological /
> epidemiological data bases shows there are studies addressing and
> supporting these claims. And of course there are studies addressing
> and debunking these claims. The point is, one should make at least
> some cursory attempt to see what arguments, both pro and con, are out
> there instead of spouting "it's pure nonsense." Maybe it is. Maybe
> it isn't. Did you take even a moment to look for any medical facts
> one way or the other?
> 
> GS
> 
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Mo Hendrickson
> <hend5953 at vandals.uidaho.edu> wrote:
> >
> > I support the "homosexual agenda" do you think Pepsi will give me free
> > soda?  I went to the Boycott Pepsi website, it was the best laugh I have had
> > in a long time.  The "offensive" commercials were great, I really enjoyed
> > the one at the bottom. And well, Family Guy is an offensive and rude tv show
> > anyway, I think that part of its appeal, though I never really have watched
> > it.
> >
> > This quote was too much for me to let slide through, "It's a medical fact
> > that persons trapped in homosexuality are statistically higher to experience
> > shortened life spans, clinical depression, drug and alcohol abuse, and
> > life-ending diseases.  Why can't PepsiCo understand that is not a good cause
> > to be supporting?"  First of all, shortened life spans, clinical depression,
> > drug and alcohol abuse, and life ending diseases, effect way more of the
> > population than just gay people. Second, with people telling us that we are
> > sinful disgusting people who deserve to go to hell, its no wonder there are
> > substance abuse problems and depression.  The things people say and do,
> > thinking it is ok,  amazes me. When Christianity gets so twisted into
> > people's fear and ignorance, it becomes a very scary and destructive force.
> >
> > Seriously, even when I was at my most religious and conservative, I knew
> > that verbally abusing and threatening eternal damnation was not ok, it is
> > never ok.  No matter what you believe or feel about something it is never ok
> > to hurt another person, just to make yourself feel better, or in the name of
> > you god.  I wonder what would happen in our country and our world if we all
> > stopped thinking about ourselves for a day and focused on others.
> >
> > Anyway, enough rambling, time to eat lunch!
> >
> > -Mo
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: london at moscow.com
> > To: vision2020 at secure.fsr.com
> > Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:20:23 -0700
> > Subject: [Vision2020] time to drink more Pepsi?
> >
> > PepsiCo boycott petition reaches 500,000 signers
> >
> > American Family Association (AFA) says it has now secured over 500,000
> > signatures from those pledging to boycott the PepsiCo Company over its
> > continued support of same-sex marriage and homosexual advocacy.  AFA has
> > been promoting a boycott of PepsiCo since January, 2009.
> > AFA asked PepsiCo to be neutral in the culture war and not support the
> > homosexual agenda. PepsiCo refused. The company continues to give financial
> > support to homosexual organizations.
> > President Tim Wildmon says AFA is committed to the boycott as long as
> > PepsiCo is advancing a lifestyle that is extremely unhealthy and dangerous.
> > "It's a medical fact that persons trapped in homosexuality are statistically
> > higher to experience shortened life spans, clinical depression, drug and
> > alcohol abuse, and life-ending diseases.  Why can't PepsiCo understand that
> > is not a good cause to be supporting?"
> > PepsiCo gave $500,000 to Human Rights Campaign (HRC) and another $500,000 to
> > the Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays (PFLAG). The total of
> > $1,000,000 was used to help promote homosexuality in the workplace. HRC and
> > PFLAG were major supporters of the efforts to defeat Proposition 8 in
> > California, which defined marriage as being between a man and a woman. HRC
> > gave $2.3 million to the effort to defeat Prop 8.
> > For more information on PepsiCo's support for the homosexual agenda, go to
> > www.BoycottPepsico.com.
> >
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