[Vision2020] Vision2020 Digest, Vol 41, Issue 53
Donovan Arnold
donovanjarnold2008 at yahoo.com
Thu Nov 5 15:16:12 PST 2009
Donald,
I don't call our legal system a justice system because of this exact way of thinking by lawyers.
Donovan Arnold
From: donald edwards <donaledwards at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Vision2020 Digest, Vol 41, Issue 53
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 10:48 PM
Oooohhhhh, so sorrrry Chuck. Let me re-phrase.
By serving 5 months of a 5-15yr sentence for having the chicken shit nerve to pull out a gun and strip someone of their life from their family then taking a bargain basement deal that changes the definition in a legal sense; you're right, he didn't get away with murder.
He got away with killing a guy.
Very clear now....Thanks.
Maybe we should all carry guns around in case we have a small dispute to settle and are too weak to use our fist or take a hit.
Hell, drunk's kill completely innocent and unsuspecting drivers all the time and seem to serve out their time for IN-voluntary murder. What programs are available for them to get off with only 5 months as this case of VOLUNTARY MURDER?
Webster's definition (hint: not the same as a lawyer's)
Main Entry: 1mur·der
Pronunciation: \ˈmər-dər\
Function: noun
Etymology: partly from Middle English murther, from Old English morthor; partly from Middle English murdre, from Anglo-French, of Germanic origin; akin to Old English morthor; akin to Old High German mord murder, Latin mort-, mors death, mori to die, mortuus dead, Greek brotos mortal
Date: before 12th century
1 : the crime of unlawfully killing a person
2 a : something very difficult or dangerous <the traffic was murder> b : something outrageous or blameworthy <getting away with murder>
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> Correct me if I'm wrong, but this guy plead guilty to manslaughter, not murder. There is a REAL BIG difference, in case anyone was in some small way concerned with the facts. Chuck Kovis
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> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
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> For heaven's sake, Wayne, you just wrote to me that he did have a drinking problem. I think that's probably clear enough. And, for the zillionth time, I think it's inappropriate -- hurtful, unkind -- to bring it up.
>
> ?????
>
> Keely
> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
>
>
>
>
> From: deco at moscow.com
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:49:02 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
>
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> JFOR, Matt stop lying!
>
>
> I have never made such an assertion.
>
> Show V2020 anything that I asserted that even resembled "he's is in
> and has been in an alcohol recovery program". You are free to post all
> private correspondence between us on this subject.
>
>
> W.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> Matt
> Decker
> To: kjajmix1 at msn.com ; philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:59
> PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just
> Curious
>
> I believe his words something to the effect of "he's is in and
> has been in an alcohol recovery program". He never said alki but thats the way
> most will take it. For that I apologize to Wayne.
>
> MD
>
>
>
>
>
> From: kjajmix1 at msn.com
> To: philosopher.joe at gmail.com; mattd2107 at hotmail.com
> Date: Thu, 5
> Nov 2009 08:31:45 -0800
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re:
> [Vision2020] Just Curious
>
>
>
> I must have missed Art Deco's saying that Weber was an "alki," but if that
> happened, it's beyond regrettable and I hope Wayne apologizes . . .
>
>
> Keely
> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> To: mattd2107 at hotmail.com
> Date: Thu, 5
> Nov 2009 08:01:35 -0800
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re:
> [Vision2020] Just Curious
>
>
> One other thing. When someone brought up Weber's job as a bartender, I
> did write on the V that that was irrelevant. Maybe you have a better opinion
> of me if you stopped distorting what I say and stopped conveniently forgetting
> the posts I write that you agree with.
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 4, 2009, at 10:06 PM, Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Joe,
>
>
> Exactly Joe, "what has anyone done on the left that you have complained
> about"?
>
> To clarify when I stated negativity or mudslinging goes
> both ways, I was not just meaning around here. I believe our town has a
> wide variety of faces and opinions all worthy. But dont for one minute
> think that the good ol nasty mudslinging doesnt happen both
> ways.
>
> Ex.
>
> Art deco claiming Weber is an alki
> and mentioning how he works at the club. How does he know? Is Art
> a drinking buddy? What is the purpose of stating he works at a bar.
> Answer: To BELITTLE
>
> Another one
>
> A lady wrote
> an opinion piece in the daily news about two weeks ago mentioning how she
> won't vote for Weber or Brown because of "these" obnoxious signs around
> town. How all the money raised by the GMA is being wasted on signs. Low and
> behold the facts come out showing that Chaney has made more money along
> with Reese raising more than Weber. Also, Chaney having the samne size signs
> all throughout Moscow.
>
> Lastly for the
> night
>
> You
>
> "This is why the radical right movement
> is such a joke. They promote
> the view that government is out of touch
> and corrupt yet their
> candidate for mayor needs a third party to
> communicate and their state
> senator likes to circumvent the democratic
> process with last minute
> stunts, like this weekend's
> letter".
>
> Along with referring to our city council as "joke
> radicals". Care to explain?
>
> Your last page excuse, mentioning
> how you never said they are radicals, looks weird to me from the above
> statements.
>
> Joe can you imagine if I said the radical
> left movement on this site. But then again I wouldn't do that. Just
> like I don't expect that from you.
>
> Take
> care
>
> MD
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> To:
> mattd2107 at hotmail.com
> Subject:
> Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:20:10 -0800
> CC:
> vision2020 at moscow.com
>
>
> Give me a break! What exactly has anyone from the left done that I have
> complained about? Give ONE example? There is none.
>
>
> Again, what IS radical if circumventing the Democratic process is not?
> And if you've been paying attention, it wasn't the first time. It is a
> regular occurence. What IS radical if having connections with a group on the
> Southern Poverty Law Center watch list is not?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:03 AM, Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> So why not complain when the left does it Joe? Don't tell me they
> don't.
>
> Both sides do and I don't agree with it. But, to label Gary
> as a radical, is a little far fetched in my opinion.
>
> Gotta
> work
>
>
>
> From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> To:
> mattd2107 at hotmail.com
> Date:
> Tue, 3 Nov 2009 06:46:04 -0800
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject:
> Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
>
>
> Another thing: if circumventing the Democratic process is not radical
> enough, what is?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 2, 2009, at 11:11 PM, Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Ok. So is he radical?
>
> M
>
>
>
> From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> To:
> mattd2107 at hotmail.com
> Subject:
> Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:54:38
> -0800
> CC: thansen at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>
>
> Matt,
>
>
> He quoted the sitting mayor from a confidential letter leaked on
> Dale Courtney's website. At least that was the source according to his
> website when I checked it this morning.
>
>
> He also quoted Nancy out of context. And he did it all while hiding
> his source. Why did he hide the source? Well one reason is that we'd
> figure out the quote was out of context. You guess the other
> reason.
>
>
> I'm for information, not distortion. That's democracy for me. Give
> me the info and I'll decide. And when my guy resorts to this sort of
> crap, I tell him to hit the road.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 2, 2009, at 10:08 PM, Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Not so sure Schroeder is radical right. Do you think he is
> in the same as Limbaugh and Hannity?
>
> > From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> >
> To: thansen at moscow.com
> > Date:
> Mon, 2 Nov 2009 18:03:38 -0800
> > CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
> >
> > This is why
> the radical right movement is such a joke. They promote
> > the
> view that government is out of touch and corrupt yet their
> >
> candidate for mayor needs a third party to communicate and their state
>
> > senator likes to circumvent the democratic process with last
> minute
> > stunts, like this weekend's letter.
> >
> >
> Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Nov 2, 2009, at 5:26 PM, "Tom
> Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Bottom line, Wayne . . .
> >
> >
> > > If the mayor is not accessible by the people, how is
> that mayor
> > > going to
> > > represent those
> people?
> > >
> > > Mayor Chaney responds to public
> email inquiries regularly.
> > >
> > > Here it is the
> night before election day and the people of Moscow
> > >
> don't
> > > even know if John Weber even checks his
> email.
> > >
> > > Why does John Weber respond to the
> people of Moscow, DURING HIS
> > > ELECTION
> > >
> CAMPAIGN, through a third party (Greg Kimberling)?
> >
> >
> > > If John Weber is elected mayor, will Greg Kimberling
> be Mayor Weber's
> > > communication link with the people of
> Moscow?
> > >
> > > Seeya at the polls, Moscow.
> >
> >
> > > Tom Hansen
> > > Moscow, Idaho
> >
> >
> > > "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the
> Optimist expects it to
> > > change
> > > and the
> Realist adjusts his sails."
> > >
> > > -
> Unknown
> > >
> > >
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