[Vision2020] Fwd: Just Curious

[Joe Campbell]

I forgot to add Dan the Area Man to the list below! My mistake! No  
doubt I missed some others, too. Joe



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> From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> Date: November 5, 2009 7:45:26 AM PST
> To: Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com>
> Cc: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>, "vision2020 at moscow.com" <vision2020 at moscow.com 
> >, Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
>

> Darrell,
>
> I think you're wrong on two counts.
>
> First, look at the difference in your examples. I don't give a damn  
> about who Clinton sleeps with but deciding to go to war, to drop  
> bombs many of which will fall on innocent people, that is something  
> different.
>
> And look at two local examples. Consider the guy with the Bigot sign  
> -- calling Lamar, Ament, and Paul bigots -- or the Gary Schroeder  
> letter -- a confidential letter, leaked at the last minute, and  
> quoted out of context without a citation allowing citizens to judge  
> for themselves. Written by an elected official. Can you tell me  
> something from the progressive side to compare with these stunts?
>
> Second, the implication is that all politicians are corrupt. But it  
> won't take long for you to realize that you're wrong because there  
> are so many local counterexamples: Lambert, Lamar, Chaney, Trail,  
> and Ringo, to name a few. All of these people have served with honor  
> and dignity.
>
> Like I said before, you get what you vote for. As long as folks vote  
> for folks like Schroeder they have no right to complain about the  
> character of politicians.
>
>
>
> On Nov 3, 2009, at 5:42 PM, Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Arguing over which party is guilty of abusing power is stupid, and
>> everyone knows it.  Both parties have been guilty of such abuses when
>> they are in power.
>>
>> Examples that come to mind, but are in no way the only examples:
>> "Iraq has weapons of Mass Destruction"
>> "I did not have relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky"
>> Whatever they called that land swap Clinton was involved in.
>>
>>
>> The old saying is true:  Power corrupts.  Absolute power corrupts  
>> absolutely.
>>
>> Why don't you find something meaningful to debate?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>  
>> wrote:
>>> Mr. Decker -
>>>
>>> Give us a concrete example, not some lame comment.  Or is that all  
>>> that
>>> you are capable of?
>>>
>>> Tom Hansen
>>> Moscow, Idaho
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tom,
>>>>
>>>> Just about every election time.
>>>>
>>>>> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:14:01 -0800
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
>>>>> From: thansen at moscow.com
>>>>> To: mattd2107 at hotmail.com
>>>>> CC: philosopher.joe at gmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt Decker stated:
>>>>>
>>>>> "So why not complain when the left does it Joe?"
>>>>>
>>>>> Care to share an example with us, Mr. Decker?
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom Hansen
>>>>> Moscow, Idaho
>>>>>
>>>>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it  
>>>>> to
>>>>> change
>>>>> and the Realist adjusts his sails."
>>>>>
>>>>> - Unknown
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it  
>>> to change
>>> and the Realist adjusts his sails."
>>>
>>> - Unknown
>>>
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