<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>I forgot to add Dan the Area Man to the list below! My mistake! No doubt I missed some others, too. Joe<br><br><br></div><div><br>Begin forwarded message:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><b>From:</b> Joe Campbell <<a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Date:</b> November 5, 2009 7:45:26 AM PST<br><b>To:</b> Darrell Keim <<a href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com">keim153@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Tom Hansen <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>>, Matt Decker <<a href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com">mattd2107@hotmail.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> <b>Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious</b><br><br></div></blockquote><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>Darrell,</span><br><span></span><br><span>I think you're wrong on two counts.</span><br><span></span><br><span>First, look at the difference in your examples. I don't give a damn about who Clinton sleeps with but deciding to go to war, to drop bombs many of which will fall on innocent people, that is something different.</span><br><span></span><br><span>And look at two local examples. Consider the guy with the Bigot sign -- calling Lamar, Ament, and Paul bigots -- or the Gary Schroeder letter -- a confidential letter, leaked at the last minute, and quoted out of context without a citation allowing citizens to judge for themselves. Written by an elected official. Can you tell me something from the progressive side to compare with these stunts?</span><br><span></span><br><span>Second, the implication is that all politicians are corrupt. But it won't take long for you to realize that you're wrong because there are so many local counterexamples: Lambert, Lamar, Chaney, Trail, and Ringo, to name a few. All of these people have served with honor and dignity.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Like I said before, you get what you vote for. As long as folks vote for folks like Schroeder they have no right to complain about the character of politicians.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>On Nov 3, 2009, at 5:42 PM, Darrell Keim <<a href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com">keim153@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>Arguing over which party is guilty of abusing power is stupid, and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>everyone knows it. Both parties have been guilty of such abuses when</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>they are in power.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Examples that come to mind, but are in no way the only examples:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"Iraq has weapons of Mass Destruction"</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"I did not have relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky"</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Whatever they called that land swap Clinton was involved in.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The old saying is true: Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Why don't you find something meaningful to debate?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Tom Hansen <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Mr. Decker -</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Give us a concrete example, not some lame comment. Or is that all that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>you are capable of?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Tom Hansen</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Moscow, Idaho</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Tom,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Just about every election time.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:14:01 -0800</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a></a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: <a href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com"><a href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com">mattd2107@hotmail.com</a></a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>CC: <a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a>; <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Matt Decker stated:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>"So why not complain when the left does it Joe?"</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Care to share an example with us, Mr. Decker?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Tom 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