[Vision2020] Just Curious

Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Thu Nov 5 07:45:26 PST 2009


Darrell,

I think you're wrong on two counts.

First, look at the difference in your examples. I don't give a damn  
about who Clinton sleeps with but deciding to go to war, to drop bombs  
many of which will fall on innocent people, that is something different.

And look at two local examples. Consider the guy with the Bigot sign  
-- calling Lamar, Ament, and Paul bigots -- or the Gary Schroeder  
letter -- a confidential letter, leaked at the last minute, and quoted  
out of context without a citation allowing citizens to judge for  
themselves. Written by an elected official. Can you tell me something  
from the progressive side to compare with these stunts?

Second, the implication is that all politicians are corrupt. But it  
won't take long for you to realize that you're wrong because there are  
so many local counterexamples: Lambert, Lamar, Chaney, Trail, and  
Ringo, to name a few. All of these people have served with honor and  
dignity.

Like I said before, you get what you vote for. As long as folks vote  
for folks like Schroeder they have no right to complain about the  
character of politicians.



On Nov 3, 2009, at 5:42 PM, Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Arguing over which party is guilty of abusing power is stupid, and
> everyone knows it.  Both parties have been guilty of such abuses when
> they are in power.
>
> Examples that come to mind, but are in no way the only examples:
> "Iraq has weapons of Mass Destruction"
> "I did not have relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky"
> Whatever they called that land swap Clinton was involved in.
>
>
> The old saying is true:  Power corrupts.  Absolute power corrupts  
> absolutely.
>
> Why don't you find something meaningful to debate?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
>> Mr. Decker -
>>
>> Give us a concrete example, not some lame comment.  Or is that all  
>> that
>> you are capable of?
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>>>
>>> Tom,
>>>
>>> Just about every election time.
>>>
>>>> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:14:01 -0800
>>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious
>>>> From: thansen at moscow.com
>>>> To: mattd2107 at hotmail.com
>>>> CC: philosopher.joe at gmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>
>>>> Matt Decker stated:
>>>>
>>>> "So why not complain when the left does it Joe?"
>>>>
>>>> Care to share an example with us, Mr. Decker?
>>>>
>>>> Tom Hansen
>>>> Moscow, Idaho
>>>>
>>>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to
>>>> change
>>>> and the Realist adjusts his sails."
>>>>
>>>> - Unknown
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to  
>> change
>> and the Realist adjusts his sails."
>>
>> - Unknown
>>
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