[Vision2020] Failed Drug Policies from Nixon to Bush

[Donovan Arnold]

Joe,

You are right. We should not treat drug addicts as criminals but as people in need of help, unless they victimize people for drugs or while being on drugs. But I also think legalizing drugs would increase the number of victims of drugs and the number of people the users victimize. 

Best Regards,

Donovan

--- On Mon, 3/2/09, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com> wrote:
From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Failed Drug Policies from Nixon to Bush
To: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
Cc: "<vision2020 at moscow.com>" <vision2020 at moscow.com>, "<donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>, "<garrettmc at verizon.net>" <garrettmc at verizon.net>
Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 4:31 PM

One question: from a policy point of view is it better to treat drug abuse as a crime or an illness. Both cost money but where should the money be spent?

Joe Campbell
On Mar 2, 2009, at 4:25 PM, Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com> wrote:


While I will agree that weed should be legalized, it is hard for me to understand why all other drugs should be. I am open to discussion but have seen the first hand effects it does to you and surrounding loved ones. I admit I have not done coke, but have known people that do. Also, how quickly their lives take a turn, compared to what alcohol does, in a time sense. 

Plus I fear the government won't be able to regulate the hard drug trade, being, I doubt organized crime will want to give up their most lucrative product. I feel they would be willing to part ways with marijuana, or try to sell it at a lesser cost then the govt' would.

Matt 

> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 15:54:24 -0800
> From: garrettmc at verizon.net
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com; donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Failed Drug Policies from Nixon to Bush
> 
> Donovan writes:
> 
> "that statement is so outlandish it is hard to take anything else you say seriously."
> 
> 
> Perhaps we all say things that seem outlandish, but from my experience seeing people I know on cocaine, that's my opinion. Knowing that people chew coca leaves for precisely the same reason people drink coffee, it really isn't as outlandish as you may believe. Anyway, my point was not to say they were equal, but that they are more similar than cocaine and alcohol are to one another. Caffiene and cocaine are both stimulants.
> 
> Have you seen first hand the effect of cocaine on people you know?
> 
> Alcohol is not legal for people under 21 years of age, which was the age bracket of people I was refering to.
> 
> I've been drunk on alcohol enough to know that the impairment it causes seems way beyond what cocaine causes, but maybe because I grew up in Lost Angeles, I shouldn't be taken seriously in any regard;)
> 
> gclev
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