[Vision2020] NYTimes: The Big Hate

Warren Hayman whayman at roadrunner.com
Sun Jun 14 13:00:21 PDT 2009


Not to mention that "Fresh Air" with Terry Gross consists of interviews, not news.

Warren Hayman

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sunil Ramalingam 
  Cc: vision 2020 
  Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 12:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] NYTimes: The Big Hate


  Gary,

  Are you saying that Nina Totenberg spins her reporting on the Supreme Court?  How?

  Sunil

  > From: jampot at roadrunner.com
  > To: philosopher.joe at gmail.com; godshatter at yahoo.com
  > Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 10:41:39 -0700
  > CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
  > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] NYTimes: The Big Hate
  > 
  > If you imagine that MSNBC with Olbermann, Madow, and Mathews, Newsweek and 
  > Evan Thomas, and taxpayer funded NPR with Jeffery Dvorkin, Nina Totenberg, 
  > Terry Gross and Michele Norris doesn't put a particularly and decidedly 
  > liberal spin on its "information" then you're even thicker than I previously 
  > imagined. No mean feat, that.
  > 
  > g
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "Joe Campbell" <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
  > To: "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>
  > Cc: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
  > Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 5:41 AM
  > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] NYTimes: The Big Hate
  > 
  > 
  > > Paul,
  > >
  > > And what does this have to do with anything I've said? You're obviously 
  > > reading something into my post that I did not say.
  > >
  > > Fox news is a disgusting example of bias, different in degree from any 
  > > other news organization, IMO. That you would follow Tom's post with some 
  > > claim that "Everyone does it" strikes me as irresponsible since it just 
  > > muddys the water. Not every organization is biased in the way Fox is. 
  > > Someone needed to point that out and I did so. That is all there is to 
  > > it. I made no comments about conservative news organizations in general, 
  > > just the one bad apple.
  > >
  > > Joe Campbell
  > >
  > > On Jun 14, 2009, at 1:21 AM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
  > >
  > >> Joe Campbell wrote:
  > >>> This is precisely why I'm disagreeing with Paul. Folks like you have 
  > >>> got him convinced that the NY Times is as bad as Fox News. What a joke!
  > >>
  > >> Nowhere did I say that the NY Times is as bad as Fox News. All I said 
  > >> was that all news has bias. That includes both the NY Times and Fox 
  > >> News, but it says nothing about the amount of bias relative to each 
  > >> other.
  > >>
  > >> You've drawn a line in the sand. There is a "right" that watches only 
  > >> Fox News, and there is a "left" that reads only the NY Times. The truth 
  > >> is, that line doesn't really exist as a line. If you really look at it, 
  > >> the right and left ideologies cover so much territory that you can't 
  > >> help but agree with a few concepts "across the line".
  > >> If we're ever going to come back together again as a country, we have to 
  > >> throw that crap out the window. All of us have to do this. Instead of 
  > >> looking for where we might agree, we're highlighting the differences.
  > >>
  > >> Paul
  > >>
  > > 
  > 
  > 
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