[Vision2020] NYTimes: The Big Hate

Sunil Ramalingam sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
Sun Jun 14 12:55:20 PDT 2009


Gary,

Are you saying that Nina Totenberg spins her reporting on the Supreme Court?  How?

Sunil

> From: jampot at roadrunner.com
> To: philosopher.joe at gmail.com; godshatter at yahoo.com
> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 10:41:39 -0700
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] NYTimes: The Big Hate
> 
> If you imagine that MSNBC with Olbermann, Madow, and Mathews, Newsweek and 
> Evan Thomas, and taxpayer funded NPR with Jeffery Dvorkin, Nina Totenberg, 
> Terry Gross and Michele Norris doesn't put a particularly and decidedly 
> liberal spin on its "information" then you're even thicker than I previously 
> imagined. No mean feat, that.
> 
> g
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joe Campbell" <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> To: "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 5:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] NYTimes: The Big Hate
> 
> 
> > Paul,
> >
> > And what does this have to do with anything I've said? You're  obviously 
> > reading something into my post that I did not say.
> >
> > Fox news is a disgusting example of bias, different in degree from any 
> > other news organization, IMO. That you would follow Tom's post with  some 
> > claim that "Everyone does it" strikes me as irresponsible since  it just 
> > muddys the water. Not every organization is biased in the way  Fox is. 
> > Someone needed to point that out and I did so. That is all  there is to 
> > it. I made no comments about conservative news  organizations in general, 
> > just the one bad apple.
> >
> > Joe Campbell
> >
> > On Jun 14, 2009, at 1:21 AM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>  wrote:
> >
> >> Joe Campbell wrote:
> >>> This is precisely why I'm disagreeing with Paul. Folks like you  have 
> >>> got him convinced that the NY Times is as bad as Fox News.  What a joke!
> >>
> >> Nowhere did I say that the NY Times is as bad as Fox News.  All I  said 
> >> was that all news has bias.  That includes both the NY Times  and Fox 
> >> News, but it says nothing about the amount of bias relative  to each 
> >> other.
> >>
> >> You've drawn a line in the sand.  There is a "right" that watches  only 
> >> Fox News, and there is a "left" that reads only the NY Times.   The truth 
> >> is, that line doesn't really exist as a line.  If you  really look at it, 
> >> the right and left ideologies cover so much  territory that you can't 
> >> help but agree with a few concepts "across  the line".
> >> If we're ever going to come back together again as a country, we  have to 
> >> throw that crap out the window.  All of us have to do this.   Instead of 
> >> looking for where we might agree, we're highlighting the  differences.
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> > 
> 
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