[Vision2020] NYTimes: The Big Hate

[g. crabtree]

If you imagine that MSNBC with Olbermann, Madow, and Mathews, Newsweek and 
Evan Thomas, and taxpayer funded NPR with Jeffery Dvorkin, Nina Totenberg, 
Terry Gross and Michele Norris doesn't put a particularly and decidedly 
liberal spin on its "information" then you're even thicker than I previously 
imagined. No mean feat, that.

g
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Campbell" <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
To: "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>
Cc: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 5:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] NYTimes: The Big Hate


> Paul,
>
> And what does this have to do with anything I've said? You're  obviously 
> reading something into my post that I did not say.
>
> Fox news is a disgusting example of bias, different in degree from any 
> other news organization, IMO. That you would follow Tom's post with  some 
> claim that "Everyone does it" strikes me as irresponsible since  it just 
> muddys the water. Not every organization is biased in the way  Fox is. 
> Someone needed to point that out and I did so. That is all  there is to 
> it. I made no comments about conservative news  organizations in general, 
> just the one bad apple.
>
> Joe Campbell
>
> On Jun 14, 2009, at 1:21 AM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>  wrote:
>
>> Joe Campbell wrote:
>>> This is precisely why I'm disagreeing with Paul. Folks like you  have 
>>> got him convinced that the NY Times is as bad as Fox News.  What a joke!
>>
>> Nowhere did I say that the NY Times is as bad as Fox News.  All I  said 
>> was that all news has bias.  That includes both the NY Times  and Fox 
>> News, but it says nothing about the amount of bias relative  to each 
>> other.
>>
>> You've drawn a line in the sand.  There is a "right" that watches  only 
>> Fox News, and there is a "left" that reads only the NY Times.   The truth 
>> is, that line doesn't really exist as a line.  If you  really look at it, 
>> the right and left ideologies cover so much  territory that you can't 
>> help but agree with a few concepts "across  the line".
>> If we're ever going to come back together again as a country, we  have to 
>> throw that crap out the window.  All of us have to do this.   Instead of 
>> looking for where we might agree, we're highlighting the  differences.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>