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<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Garamond>Not to mention that "Fresh Air" with Terry Gross
consists of interviews, not news.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Garamond>Warren Hayman</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">Sunil Ramalingam</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, June 14, 2009 12:55
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] NYTimes: The
Big Hate</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Gary,<BR><BR>Are you saying that Nina Totenberg spins her
reporting on the Supreme Court? How?<BR><BR>Sunil<BR><BR>> From: <A
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</A><BR>> To: <A
href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</A>; <A
href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</A><BR>> Date: Sun,
14 Jun 2009 10:41:39 -0700<BR>> CC: <A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>> Subject:
Re: [Vision2020] NYTimes: The Big Hate<BR>> <BR>> If you imagine that
MSNBC with Olbermann, Madow, and Mathews, Newsweek and <BR>> Evan Thomas,
and taxpayer funded NPR with Jeffery Dvorkin, Nina Totenberg, <BR>> Terry
Gross and Michele Norris doesn't put a particularly and decidedly <BR>>
liberal spin on its "information" then you're even thicker than I previously
<BR>> imagined. No mean feat, that.<BR>> <BR>> g<BR>> -----
Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Joe Campbell"
<philosopher.joe@gmail.com><BR>> To: "Paul Rumelhart"
<godshatter@yahoo.com><BR>> Cc: "g. crabtree"
<jampot@roadrunner.com>; <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>> Sent:
Sunday, June 14, 2009 5:41 AM<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] NYTimes: The
Big Hate<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > Paul,<BR>> ><BR>> > And
what does this have to do with anything I've said? You're obviously <BR>>
> reading something into my post that I did not say.<BR>> ><BR>>
> Fox news is a disgusting example of bias, different in degree from any
<BR>> > other news organization, IMO. That you would follow Tom's post
with some <BR>> > claim that "Everyone does it" strikes me as
irresponsible since it just <BR>> > muddys the water. Not every
organization is biased in the way Fox is. <BR>> > Someone needed to
point that out and I did so. That is all there is to <BR>> > it. I made
no comments about conservative news organizations in general, <BR>> >
just the one bad apple.<BR>> ><BR>> > Joe Campbell<BR>>
><BR>> > On Jun 14, 2009, at 1:21 AM, Paul Rumelhart
<godshatter@yahoo.com> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> >> Joe Campbell
wrote:<BR>> >>> This is precisely why I'm disagreeing with Paul.
Folks like you have <BR>> >>> got him convinced that the NY Times
is as bad as Fox News. What a joke!<BR>> >><BR>> >> Nowhere
did I say that the NY Times is as bad as Fox News. All I said <BR>>
>> was that all news has bias. That includes both the NY Times and Fox
<BR>> >> News, but it says nothing about the amount of bias relative
to each <BR>> >> other.<BR>> >><BR>> >> You've
drawn a line in the sand. There is a "right" that watches only <BR>>
>> Fox News, and there is a "left" that reads only the NY Times. The
truth <BR>> >> is, that line doesn't really exist as a line. If you
really look at it, <BR>> >> the right and left ideologies cover so
much territory that you can't <BR>> >> help but agree with a few
concepts "across the line".<BR>> >> If we're ever going to come back
together again as a country, we have to <BR>> >> throw that crap out
the window. All of us have to do this. Instead of <BR>> >> looking
for where we might agree, we're highlighting the differences.<BR>>
>><BR>> >> Paul<BR>> >><BR>> > <BR>> <BR>>
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