[Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth Catholic?

[bear at moscow.com]

So, the rights of a 30 week old shoe lace equate to that of a 40 week old
fetus based on what you wrote?

Ok, so then what would be the abortion problem?



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> I am hard pressed to think of a right I would extend to a 40 week old
> person
> that I wouldn't be happy to afford a 30 week old "shoelace." What rights
> did
> you have in mind
> that shouldn't apply?
>
> g
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <bear at moscow.com>
> To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
> Cc: <bear at moscow.com>; "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>; "Moscow
> Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth Catholic?
>
>
>>
>> Gary,
>>
>> I see your point, but then the unborn child, or "pre-born" if you will
>> has
>> the same rights as the post born?
>>
>>
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>>
>>> Isn't a pre-born child the very definition of innocence while a
>>> convicted
>>> murderer epitomizes its polar opposite? The notion of having no regard
>>> for
>>> the former while extending all consideration to the later seems screwed
>>> up
>>> and backward in the extreme.
>>>
>>> Murder the infant and lavish mercy on Joseph Duncan? This seems just?
>>> Really?
>>>
>>> g
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: <bear at moscow.com>
>>> To: "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>
>>> Cc: "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 7:31 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth Catholic?
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ted and Paul,
>>>>
>>>> I guess i have to ask the question, "Does it make a difference one way
>>>> or
>>>> the other"?
>>>>
>>>> Taking myself as an example, I was raised and am a practicing
>>>> Catholic.
>>>> I
>>>> do not believe in abortions at all, however, I do believe in choice.
>>>> Pro
>>>> choice does NOT equal pro-abortion.
>>>>
>>>> And just as an aside, have you ever noticed how the "anti-abortion"
>>>> folks
>>>> are usually pro death penalty?  I think those of us that oppose the
>>>> death
>>>> penalty (which I do), should just call it post-birth abortions and we
>>>> could get most of the anti-abortion folks on board!
>>>>
>>>> Wayne
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>> Ted Moffett wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/5/09, *Paul Rumelhart* <godshatter at yahoo.com
>>>>>> <mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     I used to speculate wildly about whether or not our former
>>>>>>     President was
>>>>>>     really a believer or if he was blatantly manipulating the
>>>>>> religious
>>>>>>     right through their own predilictions (or both).  What it comes
>>>>>>     down to
>>>>>>     is this: we can't look into their hearts.  Sotomayor may be the
>>>>>> most
>>>>>>     devout Catholic evar, but doesn't outwardly show it on a
>>>>>> day-to-day
>>>>>>     basis.  For all I know, she goes to church three times a week
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>     get away from her family.  We just can't know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do you state "we just can't know" about Sotomayor's regularity
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> church attendance?
>>>>>
>>>>> Rereading that, I see I wasn't very clear.  I'm not saying "we just
>>>>> can't know" about her regularity of church attendance.  I'm saying
>>>>> "we
>>>>> just can't know" what's in her heart, what she actually believes deep
>>>>> down inside.  The most regular church attender might be a closet
>>>>> Luciferan Satanist, people who never go to church may be extremely
>>>>> spiritual Christians.  We can speculate wildly about what they
>>>>> actually
>>>>> believe.  We can even read what they claim to believe, but we'll
>>>>> never
>>>>> know exactly what they actually believe, because we can't get inside
>>>>> their heads or their hearts.
>>>>>
>>>>> At the time I wrote it, I didn't know how often she attended church,
>>>>> so
>>>>> I covered both sides of the spectrum.  My point still stands - we
>>>>> can't
>>>>> look into her heart so we can't know for certain if she's a "true
>>>>> believer" or not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
>>>>>
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