[Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth Catholic?
g. crabtree
jampot at roadrunner.com
Wed Jun 10 20:35:47 PDT 2009
I am hard pressed to think of a right I would extend to a 40 week old person
that I wouldn't be happy to afford a 30 week old "shoelace." What rights did
you have in mind
that shouldn't apply?
g
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From: <bear at moscow.com>
To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
Cc: <bear at moscow.com>; "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>; "Moscow
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Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth Catholic?
>
> Gary,
>
> I see your point, but then the unborn child, or "pre-born" if you will has
> the same rights as the post born?
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>> Isn't a pre-born child the very definition of innocence while a convicted
>> murderer epitomizes its polar opposite? The notion of having no regard
>> for
>> the former while extending all consideration to the later seems screwed
>> up
>> and backward in the extreme.
>>
>> Murder the infant and lavish mercy on Joseph Duncan? This seems just?
>> Really?
>>
>> g
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <bear at moscow.com>
>> To: "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 7:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth Catholic?
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Ted and Paul,
>>>
>>> I guess i have to ask the question, "Does it make a difference one way
>>> or
>>> the other"?
>>>
>>> Taking myself as an example, I was raised and am a practicing Catholic.
>>> I
>>> do not believe in abortions at all, however, I do believe in choice. Pro
>>> choice does NOT equal pro-abortion.
>>>
>>> And just as an aside, have you ever noticed how the "anti-abortion"
>>> folks
>>> are usually pro death penalty? I think those of us that oppose the
>>> death
>>> penalty (which I do), should just call it post-birth abortions and we
>>> could get most of the anti-abortion folks on board!
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>> Ted Moffett wrote:
>>>>> On 6/5/09, *Paul Rumelhart* <godshatter at yahoo.com
>>>>> <mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I used to speculate wildly about whether or not our former
>>>>> President was
>>>>> really a believer or if he was blatantly manipulating the
>>>>> religious
>>>>> right through their own predilictions (or both). What it comes
>>>>> down to
>>>>> is this: we can't look into their hearts. Sotomayor may be the
>>>>> most
>>>>> devout Catholic evar, but doesn't outwardly show it on a
>>>>> day-to-day
>>>>> basis. For all I know, she goes to church three times a week just
>>>>> to
>>>>> get away from her family. We just can't know.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do you state "we just can't know" about Sotomayor's regularity of
>>>>> church attendance?
>>>>
>>>> Rereading that, I see I wasn't very clear. I'm not saying "we just
>>>> can't know" about her regularity of church attendance. I'm saying "we
>>>> just can't know" what's in her heart, what she actually believes deep
>>>> down inside. The most regular church attender might be a closet
>>>> Luciferan Satanist, people who never go to church may be extremely
>>>> spiritual Christians. We can speculate wildly about what they actually
>>>> believe. We can even read what they claim to believe, but we'll never
>>>> know exactly what they actually believe, because we can't get inside
>>>> their heads or their hearts.
>>>>
>>>> At the time I wrote it, I didn't know how often she attended church, so
>>>> I covered both sides of the spectrum. My point still stands - we can't
>>>> look into her heart so we can't know for certain if she's a "true
>>>> believer" or not.
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>>
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