[Vision2020] Customers Need Parking
Wayne Price
bear at moscow.com
Thu Jul 30 16:11:11 PDT 2009
Tom,
And IF I was NSA, I'd be there when the doors open and buy them
ALL, and just tack on a
$75.00 a year fee to the tuition. the city gets it's parking fee, and
the College gets parking for the students and staff.
The only ones screwed by the Gang of 7 are the average citizens and
the merchants.
On Jul 30, 2009, at 4:01 PM, Tom Hansen wrote:
> Exactly, Bill.
>
> For the low cost of $75 NSA students will each have a virtually
> guaranteed
> parking space without the necessity of moving the car every three
> hours
> (as they have in the past).
>
> This couldn't have been better orchestrated for the benefit of NSA
> students.
>
> Thanks for reminding me, Bill.
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
>
> For $75 they
>> Actually, that is my point.
>> What is to stop NSA students from buying those permits?
>> BL
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Wayne Price" <bear at moscow.com>
>> To: "Bill London" <london at moscow.com>
>> Cc: "Dan Carscallen" <areaman at moscow.com>; "'Moscow Vision 2020'"
>> <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 3:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Customers Need Parking
>>
>>
>>> Bill,
>>>
>>> How can the city refuse to sell city parking permits to NSA
>>> students or
>>> staff?
>>> That law suit will cost us a bundle!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 30, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Bill London wrote:
>>>
>>>> D-
>>>> You implied in your previous V2020 post that Bode's perspective was
>>>> incorrect or incomplete.
>>>> Please explain where Bode is wrong.
>>>> Will the city now be selling permits that allow permitees to fill
>>>> spaces
>>>> in
>>>> the Jackson Street lot (spaces that could be filled by customer
>>>> cars?)
>>>> Will the city restrict the permits to employees of downtown
>>>> merchants
>>>> and
>>>> not allow NSA students/staff to buy them?
>>>> BL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Dan Carscallen" <areaman at moscow.com>
>>>> Cc: "'Moscow Vision 2020'" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:00 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Customers Need Parking
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Courtesy of today's (July 30, 2009) Moscow-Pullman Daily News
>>>>>
>>>>> City to issue 85 downtown parking permits
>>>>>
>>>>> The city of Moscow has announced it will limit the number of
>>>>> downtown
>>>>> parking permits available for purchase to 85.
>>>>>
>>>>> Permit purchasers will be asked to complete a brief survey to
>>>>> provide
>>>>> input
>>>>> about the primary use of the permit and which lots are expected to
>>>>> see
>>>>> the
>>>>> most use.
>>>>>
>>>>> Changes to the downtown parking configuration made July 13 by the
>>>>> Moscow
>>>>> City Council included the creation of one class of downtown
>>>>> parking
>>>>> permit
>>>>> to replace the previous green and yellow permits.
>>>>>
>>>>> The new permits will cost $75 each per year - less than the
>>>>> price of
>>>>> the
>>>>> previous $375 green and $250 yellow permits.
>>>>>
>>>>> The city set the 85-permit limit and created the survey in
>>>>> response
>>>>> to
>>>>> concerns it has received about selling out of permits and possible
>>>>> limitations on customer parking for downtown businesses.
>>>>>
>>>>> For information, call Les MacDonald at (208) 883-7028, or e-mail
>>>>> lmacdonald<@ci.moscow.id.us.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
>>>>> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com ]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Dan Carscallen
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:54 AM
>>>>> Cc: 'Moscow Vision 2020'
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Customers Need Parking
>>>>>
>>>>> Mr. Bode's letter was evidently written a little early.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stay tuned.
>>>>>
>>>>> DC
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
>>>>> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com ]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Joe Campbell
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:47 AM
>>>>> To: Tom Hansen
>>>>> Cc: Moscow Vision 2020
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Customers Need Parking
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe there would be parking downtown if they didn't allow
>>>>> schools in
>>>>> the business district. Oh, that's right. They don't!
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 30, 2009, at 9:28 AM, "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Courtesy of today's (July 30, 2009) Moscow-Pullman Daily News
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> special
>>>>>> thanks to Tom Bode.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Customers need parking
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On July 6, the Moscow City Council passed a motion to reduce the
>>>>>> price of
>>>>>> parking permits in the Jackson Street parking lots to $75 per
>>>>>> year
>>>>>> ($6.25/month or 21 cents/day).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The chief reason given for inexpensive permits is to get
>>>>>> employees
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> owners off of Main Street and into the Jackson Street lots. I
>>>>>> believe the
>>>>>> effect of selling cheap permits will put many cars in these lots
>>>>>> that will
>>>>>> sit there all day. In fact, this is what your City Council
>>>>>> desires.
>>>>>> Either
>>>>>> the council didn't think through, or just doesn't care, that the
>>>>>> effect of
>>>>>> this reduces the customer's opportunity to find a parking
>>>>>> space. If
>>>>>> spaces
>>>>>> aren't turning over through the day, how will customers of the
>>>>>> downtown
>>>>>> find parking?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was told this idea of cheap parking permits came from Moscow
>>>>>> Chamber of
>>>>>> Commerce director Steven Hacker. I am shocked that the chamber
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> push
>>>>>> an idea that limits the downtown customers' opportunity to find
>>>>>> parking,
>>>>>> so that the employees and owners can park in prime parking
>>>>>> spaces. I
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> taught in every aspect of my business education to put the
>>>>>> customers
>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In January 1978, Mayor Mann accepted a check from downtown
>>>>>> businesses to
>>>>>> pay off the balance of the debt on the Jackson Street lots. The
>>>>>> City
>>>>>> Council passed a resolution in which they agreed to keep the
>>>>>> Jackson
>>>>>> Street lots for downtown customers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The current council, many of who claim to be pro-business, has
>>>>>> now
>>>>>> deviated 180 degrees from that agreement, by encouraging
>>>>>> employees
>>>>>> to park
>>>>>> in those lots.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you find over the next year you are having trouble finding a
>>>>>> space to
>>>>>> park in the Jackson Street lots, make sure you let the mayor, her
>>>>>> staff,
>>>>>> the council and the chamber know how you feel about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thomas Bode, Moscow
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Concerning the Jackson Street "Park it and Forget it" parking
>>>>>> lot . . .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The fall semester for UI students, as well as NSA students,
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> prove
>>>>>> very interesting and, more importanly, convenient.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A parking space may cost a student only 21 cents per day. How
>>>>>> much
>>>>>> is the
>>>>>> loss of that same parking space costing Main Street proprietors?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just another example of Moscow's pro-business city council.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess we can always reopen Moscow's old livery stable at
>>>>>> First and
>>>>>> Main.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.tomandrodna.com/Photos/1800s_FirstMain_Stable.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seeya round town, Moscow
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom Hansen
>>>>>> Moscow, Idaho
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects
>>>>>> it to
>>>>>> change
>>>>>> and the Realist adjusts his sails."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Unknown
>>>>>>
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>
> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to
> change
> and the Realist adjusts his sails."
>
> - Unknown
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