[Vision2020] And the evidence for this is...

[Joe Campbell]

Fair enough. Thanks, Kai!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 23, 2009, at 2:41 PM, "Kai Eiselein" <editor at lataheagle.com>  
wrote:

> Although I do carry an Idaho Open Meeting Law wallet guide with me,  
> it does not have any guidance on photography. Descretion being the  
> better part of valor, I chose I not push the subject because I  
> wasn't absolutely certain that I was correct, so I got up and left  
> the 2007 meeting.
> It won't happen again.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Campbell" <philosopher.joe at gmail.com 
> >
> To: "Kai Eiselein" <editor at lataheagle.com>
> Cc: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>; "Kai Eiselein" <fotopro63 at hotmail.com 
> >; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And the evidence for this is...
>
>
>> I'm not trying to be a pest but if she doesn't have the right, why  
>> stop?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 23, 2009, at 1:21 PM, "Kai Eiselein" <editor at lataheagle.com>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> First of all, Tom, one does not have to obtain permission to
>>> film/photograph/tape public meetings. Period.
>>> No public official has the right or power to deny the activities,   
>>> UNLESS
>>> they are causing a disruption.
>>> I never stood, I never left my seat, I merely lifted my camera to  
>>> take
>>> photographs. By no standard could my actions have been construed as
>>> disruptive.
>>> Courtrooms are a different story, permission must be granted by the
>>> presiding judge beforehand.
>>> July 20, 2007 was a typo. It should have read July 20, 2009, this  
>>> past
>>> Monday night.
>>> I'm sorry you felt you needed "permission" from the mayor, who  
>>> does  not have
>>> to the power either grant nor deny it.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>>> To: "Kai Eiselein" <fotopro63 at hotmail.com>
>>> Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 6:00 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And the evidence for this is...
>>>
>>>
>>> That's strange, Mr. Eiselein.
>>>
>>> Before I started submitting publc records requests for videos of   
>>> various
>>> city council and/or committee sessions, I personally video-taped  
>>> portions
>>> of sessions after personally obtaining permission from Mayor   
>>> Chaney. Her
>>> only request was that I do not disrupt the session(s), which I  
>>> did  not.
>>> In some cases did not videotape.  I merely shot a few photos and
>>> audio-recorded portions of the session(s)
>>>
>>> Now, the Latah County Board of Equalization, back in 2004/2005,   
>>> that's a
>>> different story.  I was all over that like Steven Sitler at a Cub   
>>> Scout
>>> camp.
>>>
>>> One other thing, Kai:  The Moscow City Council DID NOT meet on  
>>> July  20,
>>> 2007.  They met on July 16th.
>>>
>>> Tom Hansen
>>> Moscow, Idaho
>>>
>>>>
>>>> May, 7, 2007
>>>>
>>>> Mayor Nancy Chaney ordered a journalist, namely me, to stop taking
>>>> photographs during a city council meeting.
>>>>
>>>> In an email exchange later, after I sent her the AG's opinion,  
>>>> she stated
>>>> that my photographing the speakers was "disruptive" and   
>>>> "intimidating".
>>>>
>>>> Nevermind the fact that I was sitting in a chair, using no  
>>>> flash,  per the
>>>> council's rules, and was not firing continuously. In fact I took  
>>>> a grand
>>>> total of two photos.
>>>>
>>>> I voiced my displeasure with the mayor publicly in the August  
>>>> 16,  2007
>>>> issue of the Latah Eagle.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> July 20, 2007
>>>>
>>>> While Greg Meyer from KLEW was setting up his equipment shortly   
>>>> before the
>>>> council meeting, Mayor Nancy Chaney approached him and asked him   
>>>> not to
>>>> film anyone who was speaking because it was "intimidating".
>>>>
>>>> Ironically, just minutes before, I had half-jokingly warned him   
>>>> that the
>>>> mayor thought cameras were "intimidating". She stated that  
>>>> "We've  been
>>>> through this before", while looking at me, sitting a couple of  
>>>> feet away.
>>>> He thought I off my rocker, then the mayor made her statement.
>>>>
>>>> Meyer said he had NEVER had an elected official try to tell him  
>>>> not  to
>>>> film.
>>>>
>>>> This mayor is unfit for office, she has no grasp of the   
>>>> Constitution and
>>>> continues to act as though the First Amendment does not apply in  
>>>> her
>>>> chambers.
>>>>
>>>> _________________________________________________________________
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>>>
>>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it  
>>> to change
>>> and the Realist adjusts his sails."
>>>
>>> - Unknown
>>>
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