[Vision2020] And the evidence for this is...

[Kai Eiselein]

Although I do carry an Idaho Open Meeting Law wallet guide with me, it does 
not have any guidance on photography. Descretion being the better part of 
valor, I chose I not push the subject because I wasn't absolutely certain 
that I was correct, so I got up and left the 2007 meeting.
It won't happen again.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Campbell" <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
To: "Kai Eiselein" <editor at lataheagle.com>
Cc: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>; "Kai Eiselein" 
<fotopro63 at hotmail.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And the evidence for this is...


> I'm not trying to be a pest but if she doesn't have the right, why stop?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 23, 2009, at 1:21 PM, "Kai Eiselein" <editor at lataheagle.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> First of all, Tom, one does not have to obtain permission to
>> film/photograph/tape public meetings. Period.
>> No public official has the right or power to deny the activities,  UNLESS
>> they are causing a disruption.
>> I never stood, I never left my seat, I merely lifted my camera to take
>> photographs. By no standard could my actions have been construed as
>> disruptive.
>> Courtrooms are a different story, permission must be granted by the
>> presiding judge beforehand.
>> July 20, 2007 was a typo. It should have read July 20, 2009, this past
>> Monday night.
>> I'm sorry you felt you needed "permission" from the mayor, who does  not 
>> have
>> to the power either grant nor deny it.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>> To: "Kai Eiselein" <fotopro63 at hotmail.com>
>> Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 6:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And the evidence for this is...
>>
>>
>> That's strange, Mr. Eiselein.
>>
>> Before I started submitting publc records requests for videos of  various
>> city council and/or committee sessions, I personally video-taped 
>> portions
>> of sessions after personally obtaining permission from Mayor  Chaney. 
>> Her
>> only request was that I do not disrupt the session(s), which I did  not.
>> In some cases did not videotape.  I merely shot a few photos and
>> audio-recorded portions of the session(s)
>>
>> Now, the Latah County Board of Equalization, back in 2004/2005,  that's a
>> different story.  I was all over that like Steven Sitler at a Cub  Scout
>> camp.
>>
>> One other thing, Kai:  The Moscow City Council DID NOT meet on July  20,
>> 2007.  They met on July 16th.
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>>>
>>> May, 7, 2007
>>>
>>> Mayor Nancy Chaney ordered a journalist, namely me, to stop taking
>>> photographs during a city council meeting.
>>>
>>> In an email exchange later, after I sent her the AG's opinion, she 
>>> stated
>>> that my photographing the speakers was "disruptive" and  "intimidating".
>>>
>>> Nevermind the fact that I was sitting in a chair, using no flash,  per 
>>> the
>>> council's rules, and was not firing continuously. In fact I took a 
>>> grand
>>> total of two photos.
>>>
>>> I voiced my displeasure with the mayor publicly in the August 16,  2007
>>> issue of the Latah Eagle.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> July 20, 2007
>>>
>>> While Greg Meyer from KLEW was setting up his equipment shortly  before 
>>> the
>>> council meeting, Mayor Nancy Chaney approached him and asked him  not to
>>> film anyone who was speaking because it was "intimidating".
>>>
>>> Ironically, just minutes before, I had half-jokingly warned him  that 
>>> the
>>> mayor thought cameras were "intimidating". She stated that "We've  been
>>> through this before", while looking at me, sitting a couple of feet 
>>> away.
>>> He thought I off my rocker, then the mayor made her statement.
>>>
>>> Meyer said he had NEVER had an elected official try to tell him not  to
>>> film.
>>>
>>> This mayor is unfit for office, she has no grasp of the  Constitution 
>>> and
>>> continues to act as though the First Amendment does not apply in her
>>> chambers.
>>>
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>>
>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to 
>> change
>> and the Realist adjusts his sails."
>>
>> - Unknown
>>
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