[Vision2020] And the evidence for this is...

Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Thu Jul 23 11:21:01 PDT 2009


I'm not trying to be a pest but if she doesn't have the right, why stop?

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On Jul 23, 2009, at 1:21 PM, "Kai Eiselein" <editor at lataheagle.com>  
wrote:

> First of all, Tom, one does not have to obtain permission to
> film/photograph/tape public meetings. Period.
> No public official has the right or power to deny the activities,  
> UNLESS
> they are causing a disruption.
> I never stood, I never left my seat, I merely lifted my camera to take
> photographs. By no standard could my actions have been construed as
> disruptive.
> Courtrooms are a different story, permission must be granted by the
> presiding judge beforehand.
> July 20, 2007 was a typo. It should have read July 20, 2009, this past
> Monday night.
> I'm sorry you felt you needed "permission" from the mayor, who does  
> not have
> to the power either grant nor deny it.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> To: "Kai Eiselein" <fotopro63 at hotmail.com>
> Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 6:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And the evidence for this is...
>
>
> That's strange, Mr. Eiselein.
>
> Before I started submitting publc records requests for videos of  
> various
> city council and/or committee sessions, I personally video-taped  
> portions
> of sessions after personally obtaining permission from Mayor  
> Chaney.  Her
> only request was that I do not disrupt the session(s), which I did  
> not.
> In some cases did not videotape.  I merely shot a few photos and
> audio-recorded portions of the session(s)
>
> Now, the Latah County Board of Equalization, back in 2004/2005,  
> that's a
> different story.  I was all over that like Steven Sitler at a Cub  
> Scout
> camp.
>
> One other thing, Kai:  The Moscow City Council DID NOT meet on July  
> 20,
> 2007.  They met on July 16th.
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
>>
>> May, 7, 2007
>>
>> Mayor Nancy Chaney ordered a journalist, namely me, to stop taking
>> photographs during a city council meeting.
>>
>> In an email exchange later, after I sent her the AG's opinion, she  
>> stated
>> that my photographing the speakers was "disruptive" and  
>> "intimidating".
>>
>> Nevermind the fact that I was sitting in a chair, using no flash,  
>> per the
>> council's rules, and was not firing continuously. In fact I took a  
>> grand
>> total of two photos.
>>
>> I voiced my displeasure with the mayor publicly in the August 16,  
>> 2007
>> issue of the Latah Eagle.
>>
>>
>>
>> July 20, 2007
>>
>> While Greg Meyer from KLEW was setting up his equipment shortly  
>> before the
>> council meeting, Mayor Nancy Chaney approached him and asked him  
>> not to
>> film anyone who was speaking because it was "intimidating".
>>
>> Ironically, just minutes before, I had half-jokingly warned him  
>> that the
>> mayor thought cameras were "intimidating". She stated that "We've  
>> been
>> through this before", while looking at me, sitting a couple of feet  
>> away.
>> He thought I off my rocker, then the mayor made her statement.
>>
>> Meyer said he had NEVER had an elected official try to tell him not  
>> to
>> film.
>>
>> This mayor is unfit for office, she has no grasp of the  
>> Constitution and
>> continues to act as though the First Amendment does not apply in her
>> chambers.
>>
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> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to  
> change
> and the Realist adjusts his sails."
>
> - Unknown
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