[Vision2020] Fw: [Spam 5.86] BE OUTSIDE!

[Warren Hayman]

Not only anti-gay, but also anti-atheist. I cannot support such positions. 
And yes, I too was a Scout before I knew better. Then again, I was also an 
altar boy.

Warren Hayman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Campbell" <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
To: "Chasuk" <chasuk at gmail.com>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: [Spam 5.86] BE OUTSIDE!


>I don't want get controversial but the anti-gay comments have hurt,
> too. I was a scout. And odidnt mind the uniforms! Both my dad and
> brother were eagle scouts.
>
> Joe Campbell
>
> On Jan 29, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Chasuk <chasuk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:52, Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I really like what the CiNN network is all about-getting kids into
>>> nature.  But, speaking as a former professional Scout coordinator, it
>>> seems a bit redundant.  We've had Girl and Boy Scouts for almost 100
>>> years doing just this.  The program is in place, the support network
>>> has already been built, 100s of thousands of kids are participating
>>> with the assistance of numerous volunteers, and many great camps
>>> exist.  Why not support and grow what we already have?
>>
>> When I was a kid, my parents tried to involve me in Scouts many times,
>> but I hated it.  I disliked then, and I dislike now, anything
>> resembling merit badges.  If something is worth doing, it is worth
>> doing for itself, and the ribbons and medals are condescending.
>> Further, most of the merit-badge-earning activities I found pointless
>> and tedious.
>>
>> I dislike that the Boy Scouts are not entirely secular, although the
>> Girl Scouts gets this right.  I also think that the uniforms should
>> go.  I know a couple of Boy Scouts, and they all look embarrassed by
>> the uniforms.
>>
>> Anyway, those are my objections to Scouting.  Your mileage may vary
>> (and probably will).
>
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