[Vision2020] Snow problems
Bev Bafus
bevbafus at verizon.net
Sat Jan 10 14:16:46 PST 2009
Thanks, Tom for taking the time to take these pictures, and posting them.
Donovan, I do not want to get into an argument. I'll just say this one more
time. Both of these areas have sidewalks, and are not served by regular
public transit. People have to WALK IN THE HIGHWAY to get anywhere. This
is the MAJOR state highway, and a MAJOR route for chip trucks, who do not
follow speed limits.
And, I'm not talking about older people who are not shoveling their
sidewalks. Almost exclusively, these sidewalks border BUSINESS property.
The people who clear the highway haven't done such a great bang up job
either. Until yesterday, it was still one lane north on 95 from Palouse
River Drive.
Thanks
Bev
-----Original Message-----
From: Donovan Arnold [mailto:donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 1:50 PM
To: sslund_2007 at verizon.net; bevbafus at verizon.net; vision2020 at moscow.com;
Tom Hansen
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Snow problems
Looks good to me. Thanks to all the Highway people for clearing the
area.
Best Regards,
Donovan
--- On Sat, 1/10/09, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Snow problems
To: sslund_2007 at verizon.net, bevbafus at verizon.net,
donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 12:48 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen, of the Viz -
Your attention is invited to:
http://www.MoscowCares.com/011009
Seeya round town, Moscow.
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
> Donovan's attitude is symptomatic of the problem. Other places manage
to
> appropriately handle the situation, so I honestly don't know
what's wrong
> with people here that we can't. There are still FAR TOO MANY
SIDEWALKS
that
> are covered in compact ice that hasn't melted. This is DAYS after the
last
> snow. Bev, I agree with you about the problem areas you specified, but
> there are other areas just as problematic forcing pedestrians to take
their
> lives into their hands either by walking in already too narrow streets or
> trying to negotiate icy sidewalks.
>
>
>
> Yesterday I saw an older gentleman carrying what looked like grocery bags
> trying to maintain his footing on icy sidewalks in the A Street area - he
> caught my eye so then I looked at the sidewalks he was heading towards
and
> saw that stretches were just plain treacherous. Kids were out playing in
> that specific neighborhood so people are in town, yet many of the
sidewalks
> were in deplorably icy conditions. I saw the same thing in other parts
of
> town, including the central business district Thursday night. Many, if
not
> most, sidewalks downtown and in residential districts have been
> appropriately shoveled throughout the tough conditions, which makes it
all
> the more obvious that some people just don't give a rip.
>
>
>
> And, to the 20-something dude with his friends helping him carry his
brand
> new big screen TV into the house while the sidewalk in front of his house
> has consistently been one of the worst I've seen, SHAME ON YOU!!!
>
>
>
>
>
> Saundra Lund
>
> Moscow, ID
>
>
>
> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
> nothing.
>
> ~ Edmund Burke
>
>
>
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>
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-
bounces at moscow.com]
> On Behalf Of Bev Bafus
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 8:54 AM
> To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Snow problems
>
>
>
> Donovan, I'm not talking about just any sidewalk, or snow in general.
I'm
> talking about two specific areas that are an extreme danger zone.
>
>
>
> There is no public transit in these areas. There are people who have to
> walk. They have boots. They are walking, sometimes in a foot of slush.
> But why should they have to walk in the same lane as speeding chip trucks
> because adjacent landowners are too lazy to clean their sidewalks?
>
>
>
> One of these landowners IS the City of Moscow.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Bev
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donovan Arnold [mailto:donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 11:57 PM
> To: blambert at ci.moscow.id.us; dcarscallen at ci.moscow.id.us;
> jweber at moscow.com; tlamar at moscow.com; wmsteed at aol.com;
> wkrauss at ci.moscow.id.us; nchaney at ci.moscow.id.us; Bev Bafus
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Snow problems
>
>
> I don't mean to sound insensitive;
>
>
>
> But this is Idaho. It snows. It snows a lot. If snow is such a burden for
> people that they feel a need to sue people over not being available 24/7
to
> remove it from every inch of city property that within 50 ft of them,
they
> should consider a move South.
>
>
>
> People, it snows, don't like it, complain to God. If someone, or a
business
> is being really neglectful in snow and ice removal, ask them nicely to
fix
> it, if they don't, write a letter to the editor to complain.
>
>
>
> Except for disabled parking in government and private businesses, people
> should just realize it snows, and if you are unsure footed like me, you
are
> probably going to fall. It is just the way it is, please stop with
endless
> complaining about snow in Idaho in the winter, it is just a fact of life,
> love your neighbor, it isn't his/her fault, and let us move on.
>
>
>
> Go buy a pair of boots with good traction, or stay home.
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> Donovan
>
> --- On Fri, 1/9/09, Bev Bafus <bevbafus at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> From: Bev Bafus <bevbafus at verizon.net>
> Subject: [Vision2020] Snow problems
> To: blambert at ci.moscow.id.us, dcarscallen at ci.moscow.id.us,
> jweber at moscow.com, tlamar at moscow.com, wmsteed at aol.com,
> wkrauss at ci.moscow.id.us, nchaney at ci.moscow.id.us
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 12:49 PM
>
> Now that we have a break in the weather, would it be possible for there
to
> be some sort of effort to clean the sidewalks lining Highway 95 north of
> Rosauer's and south of A & W? People are still walking in the
highway.
>
> There is also snow blocking parts or all of lanes in this area.
>
> Combine the blocked lanes with lack of sidewalks, people walking in the
> highway and heavy truck traffic, and you have a recipe for a major
disaster.
>
> Thank you,
> Bev Bafus
>
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