[Vision2020] Snow problems

Sat Jan 10 13:49:52 PST 2009

Looks good to me. Thanks to all the Highway people for clearing the area. 

Best Regards,

Donovan

--- On Sat, 1/10/09, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:

From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Snow problems
To: sslund_2007 at verizon.net, bevbafus at verizon.net, donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 12:48 PM

Ladies and Gentlemen, of the Viz -

Your attention is invited to:

http://www.MoscowCares.com/011009

Seeya round town, Moscow.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

> Donovan's attitude is symptomatic of the problem.  Other places manage
to
> appropriately handle the situation, so I honestly don't know
what's wrong
> with people here that we can't.  There are still FAR TOO MANY
SIDEWALKS 
that
> are covered in compact ice that hasn't melted.  This is DAYS after the

last
> snow.  Bev, I agree with you about the problem areas you specified, but
> there are other areas just as problematic forcing pedestrians to take 
their
> lives into their hands either by walking in already too narrow streets or
> trying to negotiate icy sidewalks.
> 
>  
> 
> Yesterday I saw an older gentleman carrying what looked like grocery bags
> trying to maintain his footing on icy sidewalks in the A Street area - he
> caught my eye so then I looked at the sidewalks he was heading towards 
and
> saw that stretches were just plain treacherous.  Kids were out playing in
> that specific neighborhood so people are in town, yet many of the 
sidewalks
> were in deplorably icy conditions.  I saw the same thing in other parts 
of
> town, including the central business district Thursday night.  Many, if 
not
> most, sidewalks downtown and in residential districts have been
> appropriately shoveled throughout the tough conditions, which makes it 
all
> the more obvious that some people just don't give a rip.
> 
>  
> 
> And, to the 20-something dude with his friends helping him carry his 
brand
> new big screen TV into the house while the sidewalk in front of his house
> has consistently been one of the worst I've seen, SHAME ON YOU!!!
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Saundra Lund
> 
> Moscow, ID
> 
>  
> 
> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
> nothing.
> 
> ~ Edmund Burke
> 
>  
> 
> ***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2008 through life 
plus
> 70 years, Saundra Lund.  Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce 
outside
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> 
>  
> 
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-
bounces at moscow.com]
> On Behalf Of Bev Bafus
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 8:54 AM
> To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Snow problems
> 
>  
> 
> Donovan, I'm not talking about just any sidewalk, or snow in general. 

I'm
> talking about two specific areas that are an extreme danger zone.
> 
>  
> 
> There is no public transit in these areas.  There are people who have to
> walk.  They have boots.  They are walking, sometimes in a foot of slush.
> But why should they have to walk in the same lane as speeding chip trucks
> because adjacent landowners are too lazy to clean their sidewalks?
> 
>  
> 
> One of these landowners IS the City of Moscow.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Bev
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donovan Arnold [mailto:donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 11:57 PM
> To: blambert at ci.moscow.id.us; dcarscallen at ci.moscow.id.us;
> jweber at moscow.com; tlamar at moscow.com; wmsteed at aol.com;
> wkrauss at ci.moscow.id.us; nchaney at ci.moscow.id.us; Bev Bafus
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Snow problems
> 
> 
> I don't mean to sound insensitive; 
> 
>  
> 
> But this is Idaho. It snows. It snows a lot. If snow is such a burden for
> people that they feel a need to sue people over not being available 24/7 
to
> remove it from every inch of city property that within 50 ft of them, 
they
> should consider a move South. 
> 
>  
> 
> People, it snows, don't like it, complain to God. If someone, or a 
business
> is being really neglectful in snow and ice removal, ask them nicely to 
fix
> it, if they don't, write a letter to the editor to complain. 
> 
>  
> 
> Except for disabled parking in government and private businesses, people
> should just realize it snows, and if you are unsure footed like me, you 
are
> probably going to fall. It is just the way it is, please stop with 
endless
> complaining about snow in Idaho in the winter, it is just a fact of life,
> love your neighbor, it isn't his/her fault, and let us move on. 
> 
>  
> 
> Go buy a pair of boots with good traction, or stay home. 
> 
>  
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
>  
> 
> Donovan
> 
> --- On Fri, 1/9/09, Bev Bafus <bevbafus at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> From: Bev Bafus <bevbafus at verizon.net>
> Subject: [Vision2020] Snow problems
> To: blambert at ci.moscow.id.us, dcarscallen at ci.moscow.id.us,
> jweber at moscow.com, tlamar at moscow.com, wmsteed at aol.com,
> wkrauss at ci.moscow.id.us, nchaney at ci.moscow.id.us
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 12:49 PM
> 
> Now that we have a break in the weather, would it be possible for there 
to
> be some sort of effort to clean the sidewalks lining Highway 95 north of
> Rosauer's and south of A & W?  People are still walking in the
highway.
>  
> There is also snow blocking parts or all of lanes in this area.
>  
> Combine the blocked lanes with lack of sidewalks, people walking in the
> highway and heavy truck traffic, and you have a recipe for a major 
disaster.
>  
> Thank you,
> Bev Bafus
>  
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