[Vision2020] Humane interrogations work

[a]

Well hampster, heres a few areas where you're wrong.

Point 1. We put prisoners of war in prisoner of war camps because there WERE prisioners of war. The detainees at Gitmo are not POW's and are not subject to the Geneva convention.

Point 2. What does winning the war have to do with anything? It sounds to me as though you are using the might makes right argument.

Point 3. What moral high ground? We have just been informed that WW II was violent US policey to force others to conform in our image.

I guess that it was awfully inconsiderate of us to position our fleet underneath Yamamoto's torpedo bombers and incredibly boorish of our allies in England to leave London laying around where it could interfere with the landing of German ordinance. We are bastards aren't we?

g
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tom Hansen 
  To: smith at turbonet.com ; garrettmc at verizon.net ; jampot at roadrunner.com ; Vision 2020 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:32 AM
  Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Humane interrogations work


  g stated:
   
  "Let me get this straight. Imperial Japan and Adolph Hitler and the Nazi's were the recipients of 'violent US policy against people the US wanted to conform in it's image.'"
   
  Golly, gee, g . . .
   
  Back then there was no GITMO.  There were no secret CIA camps created for "interrogations"; just your regular American prisoner-of-war camps, all 512 of them (one of which was located in the vicinity of Fort Bliss, Texas, that I posted about earlier), operated in compliance with the Geneva Convention accords.  And, if our history books are correct (and me and my public education have no reason to doubt them), we not only won that war (aka "The Great Hate"), but, as the war concluded, the United States had its feet firmly planted on the moral highground.
   
  Now, concerning the current war, the one in Iraq that nobody is winning, and concerning GITMO, the camp that cost the United States its moral credibility, you were saying . . .
   
  Seeya in the bread lines, Moscow.
   
  Tom Hansen
  Moscow, Idaho
   

  "For a lapsed Lutheran born-again Buddhist pan-Humanist Universalist Unitarian Wiccan Agnostic like myself there's really no reason ever to go to work."



  - Roy Zimmerman




    
  > From: smith at turbonet.com
  > To: garrettmc at verizon.net; jampot at roadrunner.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
  > Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 07:42:00 -0800
  > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Humane interrogations work
  > 
  > Reading your list of possible other people who could have a vendetta against 
  > the US, g, leads to one common demoninator: violent US policy against people 
  > the US wanted to conform in it's image.
  > 
  > Let me get this straight. Imperial Japan and Adolph Hitler and the Nazi's 
  > were the recipients of "violent US policy against people the US wanted to 
  > conform in it's image."
  > 
  > You're to much.
  > 
  > g 


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