[Vision2020] water sale bill

Mon Feb 9 12:07:42 PST 2009

Tom Hansen

Moscow, Idaho

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up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a ride!'"

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From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Ellen Roskovich
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 11:29 AM
To: editor at lataheagle.com; donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com;
rhayes at turbonet.com; chasuk at gmail.com
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] water sale bill

Hmmmm. . . .hate to be the bearer of bad news, but. . . . there's a really
good chance that even our home grown "mall rats" will have to change their
habits as more national stores lay off employees, close their doors for good
all across the country and potential UI students see the family savings
evaporate as dad get's laid off with no health care and no pension for those
"Golden Years" we were all promised.

I get the feeling that either Moscow residents are very sheltered or in
complete denial about the state of affairs regarding our present economy.

It must be the Moscow water....or the Red State Kool Ade you're all
drinking.  Cause I'm down here visiting family in Blue State Oregon where
everyone on the block has at least one family member laid off and people are
scrounging our mill end cut-off pile for something free to keep the family
warm for one more day.

Ellen A. Roskovich

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From: editor at lataheagle.com
To: gussie443 at hotmail.com; donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com;
rhayes at turbonet.com; chasuk at gmail.com
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] water sale bill
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:34:03 -0800

And in the meantime McMansions, with their attendant high-maintenance, water
dependent lawns are plopped down all over the place without so much as a
peep of opposition.

I wonder which uses more H2O?

Looking at it, the mall "may" be a good idea. I'll tell you why:

Because we have raised a couple of generations of "Mall Rats", a mall with
the shops that today's kids expect may very well be a draw for prospective
to students to both universities.

That translates into outside $ flowing into the communities and that is a
good thing.

From: Ellen <mailto:gussie443 at hotmail.com>  Roskovich 

Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 7:44 AM

To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com ; rhayes at turbonet.com ; chasuk at gmail.com 

Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com 

Subject: Re: [Vision2020] water sale bill

Donovan. . . . You are probably not old enough to remember, but the "Moscow
Mall" was built prior to the Palouse Empire Mall.  The one big anchor was
Sears and lots of little outlets that were later duplicated in the Palouse
Mall.  There simply wasn't enough traffic to justify two Jay Jacobs, two
Hallmark shops, two of the same shoe shops. . . . duplication, not choice
was the order of the day.  And at the same time we had a lively downtown
with really nice family owned shops with quality merchandise.  I remember
going "downtown" to outfit my oldest daughter for back- to- school clothes
and supplies. . . .but ten years later, when my youngest was ready to start
school, one mall was turning into a ghost town, Main Street had more
services than retail and all the back-to-school sales were at K-Mart and the
Palouse Mall.

So our "area" is set to get a bigger and badder-assed mall than the one we
already can't afford to shop in now.  Great timing, guys.  First off, you
didn't learn a thing from the past thirty years and, I hate to break the
news to y'all, but we're in a recession.  There's absolutely no hope of Home
Depot opening up and I wonder if Lowes isn't having second thoughts.  There
will be no Circuit City because they've already thrown in the towel
nationwide.  Across the country Macy's is cutting jobs. . . will Moscow be
next?  

And once and for all, Donovan, is doesn't matter if our water "tastes bad"
or leaves a brown ring in the toilet. . . . if it's the only water available
to us, then we need to know that and protect it.  I can't believe that this
issue hasn't been studied and revisited with some conclusion finally
available to us.  Communities need guidelines and can't we utilize the
brainpower within our community. . . namely the University of Idaho? 

Also, Donovan, for what it's worth (not much, I know, because I'm not an
expert) I remember reading somewhere that our snowfall, rain, etc.
contributes very little to recharging the aquifer.  So every year we loose
huge amounts of water because we can't store it.  Perhaps this is part of
the issue that needs to be addressed for the future. . . or maybe I'm
finally a nutty old lady who can't remember anything. 

Ellen A. Roskovich

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Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 00:31:11 -0800
From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
To: rhayes at turbonet.com; chasuk at gmail.com
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] water sale bill

I always thought they built the Moscow Mall just to make the Palouse Empire
Mall look better. 
I think if you fired a cannon through the center of the Eastside Market
Place the ball would kill more people after it crossed the street into the
cemetery.

Best Regards,

Donovan

--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Chasuk <chasuk at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Chasuk <chasuk at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] water sale bill
To: "roger hayes" <rhayes at turbonet.com>
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Sunday, February 8, 2009, 3:22 PM

I live very near Safeway.  However, it generally fails me as a grocery

store, as it is too expensive for my income level.  So I travel the

extra distance to the
 much-less-expensive WinCo.

I would prefer to buy books locally -- and sometimes I do -- but I

usually buy from Amazon.  Why?  Convenience and affordability.

I love motion pictures.  They are one of the few treats I allow

myself.  But do I attend Moscow cinemas?  Of course not.  All Moscow

cinemas suck compared to the Village in Pullman.

Assuming that this mega-mall opens, I will likely shop there, as will

the majority of the citizens of Moscow, as they presently shop at

Wal-Mart, even if they are among the naysayers.

If this mega-mall opens, most of its employees will be from Moscow.  I

count that as a cash-injection for my community (although arguably

offset by the loss of tax revenue).  The water will come from our

shared aquifer.  I count that as a loss if we do nothing but bitch and

sulk, but as a gain if we shut up and sell them the water.

The first question is, why is the Palouse Empire
 Mall so pathetic?

Any "real" mall has a food court, which our pathetic mall lacks. 

Even

the CUB at WSU has a passable food court.  Please don't mention the

Sodexo abomination in the UI Commons.

Any "real" mall has a cineplex, which our pathetic mall lacks.

At least Eastside Marketplace is honest enough not to include the word

"mall" in its name.

The second, and last, question is, since the combined populations of

Moscow and Pullman don't seem adequate to support the Palouse Empire

Mall or Eastside Marketplace, why should this mega-mall succeed?

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