[Vision2020] water sale bill

Mon Feb 9 11:29:17 PST 2009

Hmmmm. . . .hate to be the bearer of bad news, but. . . . there's a really good chance that even our home grown "mall rats" will have to change their habits as more national stores lay off employees, close their doors for good all across the country and potential UI students see the family savings evaporate as dad get's laid off with no health care and no pension for those "Golden Years" we were all promised.

I get the feeling that either Moscow residents are very sheltered or in complete denial about the state of affairs regarding our present economy.

It must be the Moscow water....or the Red State Kool Ade you're all drinking.  Cause I'm down here visiting family in Blue State Oregon where everyone on the block has at least one family member laid off and people are scrounging our mill end cut-off pile for something free to keep the family warm for one more day.

Ellen A. Roskovich

From: editor at lataheagle.comTo: gussie443 at hotmail.com; donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com; rhayes at turbonet.com; chasuk at gmail.comCC: vision2020 at moscow.comSubject: Re: [Vision2020] water sale billDate: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:34:03 -0800

And in the meantime McMansions, with their attendant high-maintenance, water dependent lawns are plopped down all over the place without so much as a peep of opposition.
I wonder which uses more H2O?
Looking at it, the mall "may" be a good idea. I'll tell you why:
Because we have raised a couple of generations of "Mall Rats", a mall with the shops that today's kids expect may very well be a draw for prospective to students to both universities.
That translates into outside $ flowing into the communities and that is a good thing.

From: Ellen Roskovich 
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 7:44 AM
To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com ; rhayes at turbonet.com ; chasuk at gmail.com 
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com 
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] water sale bill
Donovan. . . . You are probably not old enough to remember, but the "Moscow Mall" was built prior to the Palouse Empire Mall.  The one big anchor was Sears and lots of little outlets that were later duplicated in the Palouse Mall.  There simply wasn't enough traffic to justify two Jay Jacobs, two Hallmark shops, two of the same shoe shops. . . . duplication, not choice was the order of the day.  And at the same time we had a lively downtown with really nice family owned shops with quality merchandise.  I remember going "downtown" to outfit my oldest daughter for back- to- school clothes and supplies. . . .but ten years later, when my youngest was ready to start school, one mall was turning into a ghost town, Main Street had more services than retail and all the back-to-school sales were at K-Mart and the Palouse Mall. So our "area" is set to get a bigger and badder-assed mall than the one we already can't afford to shop in now.  Great timing, guys.  First off, you didn't learn a thing from the past thirty years and, I hate to break the news to y'all, but we're in a recession.  There's absolutely no hope of Home Depot opening up and I wonder if Lowes isn't having second thoughts.  There will be no Circuit City because they've already thrown in the towel nationwide.  Across the country Macy's is cutting jobs. . . will Moscow be next?   And once and for all, Donovan, is doesn't matter if our water "tastes bad" or leaves a brown ring in the toilet. . . . if it's the only water available to us, then we need to know that and protect it.  I can't believe that this issue hasn't been studied and revisited with some conclusion finally available to us.  Communities need guidelines and can't we utilize the brainpower within our community. . . namely the University of Idaho?   Also, Donovan, for what it's worth (not much, I know, because I'm not an expert) I remember reading somewhere that our snowfall, rain, etc. contributes very little to recharging the aquifer.  So every year we loose huge amounts of water because we can't store it.  Perhaps this is part of the issue that needs to be addressed for the future. . . or maybe I'm finally a nutty old lady who can't remember anything.  Ellen A. Roskovich        

Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 00:31:11 -0800From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.comTo: rhayes at turbonet.com; chasuk at gmail.comCC: vision2020 at moscow.comSubject: Re: [Vision2020] water sale bill

I always thought they built the Moscow Mall just to make the Palouse Empire Mall look better. I think if you fired a cannon through the center of the Eastside Market Place the ball would kill more people after it crossed the street into the cemetery.Best Regards,Donovan--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Chasuk <chasuk at gmail.com> wrote:
From: Chasuk <chasuk at gmail.com>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] water sale billTo: "roger hayes" <rhayes at turbonet.com>Cc: vision2020 at moscow.comDate: Sunday, February 8, 2009, 3:22 PMI live very near Safeway.  However, it generally fails me as a grocerystore, as it is too expensive for my income level.  So I travel theextra distance to the
 much-less-expensive WinCo.I would prefer to buy books locally -- and sometimes I do -- but Iusually buy from Amazon.  Why?  Convenience and affordability.I love motion pictures.  They are one of the few treats I allowmyself.  But do I attend Moscow cinemas?  Of course not.  All Moscowcinemas suck compared to the Village in Pullman.Assuming that this mega-mall opens, I will likely shop there, as willthe majority of the citizens of Moscow, as they presently shop atWal-Mart, even if they are among the naysayers.If this mega-mall opens, most of its employees will be from Moscow.  Icount that as a cash-injection for my community (although arguablyoffset by the loss of tax revenue).  The water will come from ourshared aquifer.  I count that as a loss if we do nothing but bitch andsulk, but as a gain if we shut up and sell them the water.The first question is, why is the Palouse Empire
 Mall so pathetic?Any "real" mall has a food court, which our pathetic mall lacks. Eventhe CUB at WSU has a passable food court.  Please don't mention theSodexo abomination in the UI Commons.Any "real" mall has a cineplex, which our pathetic mall lacks.At least Eastside Marketplace is honest enough not to include the word"mall" in its name.The second, and last, question is, since the combined populations ofMoscow and Pullman don't seem adequate to support the Palouse EmpireMall or Eastside Marketplace, why should this mega-mall succeed?======================================================= List services made available by First Step Internet,  serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.                  http://www.fsr.net                                
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