[Vision2020] Vandalism Deplored as Hate Crime

Glenn Schwaller vpschwaller at gmail.com
Tue Dec 8 12:23:16 PST 2009


I have no problem figuring out the difference between a swastika, an
epithet, and a "go home" sprayed on a Muslim man's truck in CdA.  What
concerns me is if YOU have the problem seeing the relationship between
them.  I'm sure someone as educated as Ms Mix knows that the swastika
was used by many cultures throughout the past 3,000 years to represent
life, sun, power, strength, and good luck.  Unfortunately its use by
the Nazi's (and perhaps other Hitler Youth?) for a few short years
pretty much buried the harmonious intent of the original design.  So,
swastika = bad.

And I'm sure you are aware that an epithet may be defined as an
abusive or contemptuous word or phrase, or a disparaging or abusive
word or phrase that expresses a character trait of someone.  "Hitler
Youth" = swastika (by association) = not so bad in this case?
Perfectly innocent and containing no ulterior motive (as long as it's
NOT on personal property).  Have I got that correct??

If "Hitler Youth" was not an epithet leveled at a group or groups in
Moscow, then it must have been nothing more than a group of Hitler
Youths notifying all of their passing through the fair city.  Is this
what you are trying to say Ms Mix???  You seriously believe
that??!!??!  If that is the case then I suggest you would likely
believe the Cd'A "hate speech" (your quotes, not mine) was a way for
some young Muslim scholar to make a point in the hope that it would be
blamed on some foaming-at-the-mouth liberal -- and impress the Big Men
in the local mosque.  Oh no, it can't be that because it was done on
personal property, not public.  Makes all the difference in the world
does it not?

Had they painted these “things” ON THE PUBLIC STREET to the side of
the vehicle,  would it have been "First Amendment Rights freedom of
expression"?  Perhaps had this been the case it would have been just a
wish for good health and luck, and an admonition to be sure and be
home in time for dinner, for whomever happened to be parking there at
the time.  After all, that would have just been “randomly chosen (like
a sidewalk for instance) with no intent leveled at any one”.  I'm
certain then, that even Ms Mix would have to agree the Cd’A incident
(paraphrasing) "was never, and never would be, an epithet leveled at
someone".  Am I reading you correctly here Ms Mix?

So, for the sake of argument, let's put aside the legalities and the
fact this was someone’s personal property, and look at the "intent,"
"mind-set," or "personal character" displayed in both cases.  Is there
a difference, humanistically, philosophically, morally, or socially,
between these two incidents?  A simple yes or no will suffice.  I, of
course, will vote No.

I believe the answer(s) may suggest who amongst us, at the very core
of their being, are racist, bigoted, and intolerant.

And sorry, I STILL have no offices in the downtown area.

GS


On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
> And who can forget the infamous police complaint filed by Doug Wilson at
> about the same time as the "NSA/Hitler Youth" vandalism, a complaint that
> he (Doug Wilson) did not want investigated, merely maintained on file.
>
> A quote from that police complaint (attached) . . .
>
> "Other than their evident public malice expressed in other settings, I
> have no evidence to say that the following people are responsible.  But,
> these are some of the foremost people involved in displaying public
> animosity.
>
> 1.  Jackie Wolf aka J. Ford on Vision 2020
>
> 2.  Charlie Nolan - multiple aliases on Vision 2020
>
> 3.  Michael Metzler - www.poohsthink.com
>
> 4.  Tom Hansen
>
> 5.  Terry Morin"
>
> By the way, how did that Writ of Mandate thing turn out?
>
> Oh, you don't recall.
>
> Maybe this will refresh your memory.
>
> http://www.tomandrodna.com/writofmandate/
>
> Hmmm.
>
> Tom Hansen, Intolerista
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> “I’ll just speak for our church, in Christ Church. If I found out that a
> member of our church or a church officer was lying to non-believers in the
> community, as a way to get by or protect themself or protect his
> reputation, yes, he’d be disciplined.”
>
> - Doug Wilson (January 31, 2007)
>
>



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