[Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question

Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Fri Apr 17 14:26:53 PDT 2009


Me too!

Joe Campbell

On Apr 17, 2009, at 3:25 PM, <bear at moscow.com> wrote:

> Sunil,
>
> CONGRATULATIONS!
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> You have now officially been pilloried for defending the  
> Constitution of the United
> States!
> I am proud to know you for that!
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>> Well, it's a about damn time. Sunil's covert ninja-lawyering was  
>> really
>> becoming creepy.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Jennifer
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com 
>> ]
>> On Behalf Of Tom Hansen
>> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 6:47 AM
>> To: Donovan Arnold; vision 2020; Sunil Ramalingam
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question
>>
>> Is that true, Sunil?
>>
>> Are you, in fact, INTENTIONALLY being a lawyer?
>>
>> Tell us, arnold, what are you intentiionally being?
>>
>> Tommy Handson
>>
>>> Sunil
>>>
>>> I thought you might just honestly be confused, but now I know are
>> int> entionally being a lawyer.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Donovan
>>>
>>> --- On Fri, 4/17/09, Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question
>>> To: "vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>> Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 7:01 AM
>>>
>>>
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>>> Oh, I've read it several times. It doesn't make your case.
>>>
>>> Sunil
>>>
>>>
>>> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 06:49:17 -0700
>>> From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question
>>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com; sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sunil,
>>>
>>> Are you aware that a post preceded this post?:First, the Ten  
>>> Commandants
>> sa> y to "Love your Neighbor". Do you disagree?
>>>
>>> http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2009-April/062917.html
>>>
>>> I don't think you are. I think you think this was the start of the
>> conversa> tion. And that you are unaware that this is the response  
>> to a
>> question,
>> not>  the start of a new conversation.
>>>
>>> Read the post before this one that you quoted, Then get back to me.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Donovan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Thu, 4/16/09, Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question
>>> To: "vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>> Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 5:48 PM
>>>
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>>> Here is your post in which you said
>>> First, the Ten Commandants say to "Love your Neighbor". Do you  
>>> disagree?
>>> http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2009-April/062917.html
>>>
>>> As you, or at least any honest person, can see, you then go on to  
>>> try to
>> pr> ove  your point by quoting Jesus.  But what Jesus said was not  
>> one of
>> t> he Ten Commandments.
>>>
>>> You never said 'The Ten Commandments, as I interpret them, or claim
>> Catholi> c doctrine interprets them, say "Love your Neighbor."
>>>
>>> Here is Wayne's (Bear's) post in which he disagreed with you and  
>>> asked
>> you
>>> which commandment said that.
>>>
>>> http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2009-April/062919.html
>>>
>>> Hey look, I'm able to substantiate what I said! That puts me way  
>>> ahead of
>> y> ou, Mr. Burning Pants.
>>>
>>> Sunil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:02:54 -0700
>>> From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question
>>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com; sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sunil,
>>>
>>> Please quote what you believe to be the original question, and  
>>> point to
>> whe> re Wayne references the term Ten Commandments in it.
>>>
>>> Your inability to do so, I believe, will show any dishonesty.
>>>
>>> "Donovan has taken Jesus' statement and tried to pretend it's one  
>>> of the
>> Te> n Commandments."
>>>
>>> I am not pretending, that is your job, not mine. I have
>> to actually pro> duce something.besides twisty words.
>>>
>>> According to the Catholic Church, the Ten Commandments do encompass
>> Lovin> g God and Loving thy Neighbor. I tried to explain that by  
>> quoting
>> Jesus
>> fro> m Matthew and providing a link to Wikipedia that explains it.
>>>
>>> If you want to reject the Catholic interpretation of the Ten  
>>> Commandants,
>> o> r the Teachings of Christ, that is your choice. But I am not
>> pretending. I
>>> have reason to do so.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Donovan
>>>
>>> --- On Thu, 4/16/09, Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question
>>> To: "vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>> Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 9:00 AM
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>>> I've looked at the thread, and Wayne's account below is absolutely
>> correct.
>>>
>>> An honest person will be able to acknowledge that.
>>>
>>> Donovan has taken Jesus' statement and tried to pretend it's one  
>>> of the
>> Ten>  Commandments.
>>>
>>> Sunil
>>>
>>>> To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com; sunilramalingam at hotmail.com;
>> vision2020> @moscow.com
>>>> From: bear at moscow.com
>>>> Subject: BACK to the Original Question
>>>> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:19:42 +0000
>>>>
>>>> Donovan,
>>>>
>>>> YOU wrote: "First, the Ten Commandants say to "Love your  
>>>> Neighbor". Do
>> yo> u disagree?"
>>>>
>>>> And YES, I do disagree. NO WHERE in the Ten Commandments does it  
>>>> say
>> that> ! And you have
>>>> offered no reasonably accepted answer to back up your spurious  
>>>> claim
>> that>  it is the TEN
>>>> COMMANDMENTS.
>>>>
>>>> And not only did you misquote me, but you took the discussion
>> completely
>>> out of context!
>>>>
>>>> MY words, the way I wrote them and the way they are on Vision 2020
>> are:"
>>> You state below
>>>> that
>>>> 'God says to love your neighbor, not sell and abuse them', where?  
>>>> In
>> the
>>> Bible?"
>>>>
>>>> So before you call Sunil a snake and accuse him of slithering,  
>>>> answer
>> the>  original
>>>> question, WHERE
>>>> in the bible does it say, " .... not to sell and abuse " your  
>>>> neighbor?
>>>>
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