[Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question

bear at moscow.com bear at moscow.com
Fri Apr 17 08:25:02 PDT 2009


Sunil,

CONGRATULATIONS! 

You have now officially been pilloried for defending the Constitution of the United
States!
I am proud to know you for that!









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> Well, it's a about damn time. Sunil's covert ninja-lawyering was really
> becoming creepy.
> 
> Sincerely,
>  
> Jennifer
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> On Behalf Of Tom Hansen
> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 6:47 AM
> To: Donovan Arnold; vision 2020; Sunil Ramalingam
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question
> 
> Is that true, Sunil?
> 
> Are you, in fact, INTENTIONALLY being a lawyer?
> 
> Tell us, arnold, what are you intentiionally being?
> 
> Tommy Handson
> 
> > Sunil
> >  
> > I thought you might just honestly be confused, but now I know are
> int> entionally being a lawyer. 
> >  
> > Best Regards,
> >  
> > Donovan
> > 
> > --- On Fri, 4/17/09, Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > From: Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question
> > To: "vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 7:01 AM
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > Oh, I've read it several times. It doesn't make your case.
> > 
> > Sunil
> > 
> > 
> > Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 06:49:17 -0700
> > From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question
> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com; sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sunil,
> >  
> > Are you aware that a post preceded this post?:First, the Ten Commandants
> sa> y to "Love your Neighbor". Do you disagree?
> > 
> > http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2009-April/062917.html
> > 
> > I don't think you are. I think you think this was the start of the
> conversa> tion. And that you are unaware that this is the response to a 
> question,
> not>  the start of a new conversation. 
> >  
> > Read the post before this one that you quoted, Then get back to me. 
> >  
> > Best Regards,
> >  
> > Donovan
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Thu, 4/16/09, Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > From: Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question
> > To: "vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 5:48 PM
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > Here is your post in which you said 
> > First, the Ten Commandants say to "Love your Neighbor". Do you disagree?
> > http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2009-April/062917.html
> > 
> > As you, or at least any honest person, can see, you then go on to try to
> pr> ove  your point by quoting Jesus.  But what Jesus said was not one of
> t> he Ten Commandments.
> > 
> > You never said 'The Ten Commandments, as I interpret them, or claim
> Catholi> c doctrine interprets them, say "Love your Neighbor." 
> > 
> > Here is Wayne's (Bear's) post in which he disagreed with you and asked 
> you
> > which commandment said that.
> > 
> > http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2009-April/062919.html
> > 
> > Hey look, I'm able to substantiate what I said! That puts me way ahead of
> y> ou, Mr. Burning Pants.
> > 
> > Sunil
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:02:54 -0700
> > From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question
> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com; sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sunil,
> >  
> > Please quote what you believe to be the original question, and point to
> whe> re Wayne references the term Ten Commandments in it.
> >  
> > Your inability to do so, I believe, will show any dishonesty. 
> >  
> > "Donovan has taken Jesus' statement and tried to pretend it's one of the
> Te> n Commandments."
> >  
> > I am not pretending, that is your job, not mine. I have
> to actually pro> duce something.besides twisty words. 
> >  
> > According to the Catholic Church, the Ten Commandments do encompass
> Lovin> g God and Loving thy Neighbor. I tried to explain that by quoting 
> Jesus
> fro> m Matthew and providing a link to Wikipedia that explains it. 
> >  
> > If you want to reject the Catholic interpretation of the Ten Commandants,
> o> r the Teachings of Christ, that is your choice. But I am not 
> pretending. I
> > have reason to do so. 
> >   
> >  
> > Best Regards,
> >  
> > Donovan
> > 
> > --- On Thu, 4/16/09, Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > From: Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question
> > To: "vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 9:00 AM
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > I've looked at the thread, and Wayne's account below is absolutely 
> correct.
> > 
> > An honest person will be able to acknowledge that. 
> > 
> > Donovan has taken Jesus' statement and tried to pretend it's one of the
> Ten>  Commandments. 
> > 
> > Sunil
> > 
> > > To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com; sunilramalingam at hotmail.com;
> vision2020> @moscow.com
> > > From: bear at moscow.com
> > > Subject: BACK to the Original Question
> > > Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:19:42 +0000
> > > 
> > > Donovan,
> > > 
> > > YOU wrote: "First, the Ten Commandants say to "Love your Neighbor". Do
> yo> u disagree?"
> > > 
> > > And YES, I do disagree. NO WHERE in the Ten Commandments does it say
> that> ! And you have 
> > > offered no reasonably accepted answer to back up your spurious claim
> that>  it is the TEN 
> > > COMMANDMENTS.
> > > 
> > > And not only did you misquote me, but you took the discussion 
> completely
> > out of context!
> > > 
> > > MY words, the way I wrote them and the way they are on Vision 2020 
> are:"
> > You state below
> > > that 
> > > 'God says to love your neighbor, not sell and abuse them', where? In 
> the
> > Bible?"
> > > 
> > > So before you call Sunil a snake and accuse him of slithering, answer
> the>  original
> > > question, WHERE 
> > > in the bible does it say, " .... not to sell and abuse " your neighbor?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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