[Vision2020] 8 year old girl denied divorce

Donovan Arnold donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Mon Apr 13 16:46:43 PDT 2009


Bear,
 
First, the Ten Commandants say to "Love your Neighbor". Do you disagree?
 

‘“You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.” This is the greatest and first commandment. And a second is like it: “You shall love your neighbour as yourself.” On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.’--Jesus—Matthew 22:34-40
 
Second, Are you arguing that selling someone into slavery and abusing them is not contrary to this law?
 
Best Regards,
 
Donovan

--- On Mon, 4/13/09, bear at moscow.com <bear at moscow.com> wrote:


From: bear at moscow.com <bear at moscow.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] 8 year old girl denied divorce
To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>, "Ralph Nielsen" <nielsen at uidaho.edu>, vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Monday, April 13, 2009, 4:16 PM


Donovan,

You state below that "God says to love your neighbor, not sell and abuse them", where? In
the 
Bible?
You can't use the Bible where it supports your position and then say it's bunk when it
doesn't!

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> Ralph,  
> The Bible is not the law of the land. And I don't know of any men,
including Wilson, that want to adopt Leviticus or Exodus as such.   
> God says to love your neighbor, not sell and abuse them.  
> Women were sold in ancient times, or given a dowry, in order to repay
the  father for the cost of raising and protecting her, which was expensive to
> do. You have to watch them 24 hours a day. 
>  
> Your interpretation of God, and the Bible seems extremely corrupted.
Perhaps it is your prejudice against people that know a loving God exists. 
>  
> Best Regards,
>  
> Donovan
> 
> --- On Mon, 4/13/09, Ralph Nielsen <nielsen at uidaho.edu> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Ralph Nielsen <nielsen at uidaho.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] 8 year old girl denied divorce
> To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Monday, April 13, 2009, 2:54 PM
> 
> 
> 
> I don't think anyone suggested that he was, Donovan. But there are all too
> many like him who want to make it the law of the land. 
> 
> 
> As I pointed out, the God of the Bible says it is OK for a father to sell
h> is daughter into slavery. Doug seems to lack a sense of morality so he
goes>  by the rule that if it's biblical, it's moral.
> 
> 
> Ralph
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 13, 2009, at 2:22 PM, Donovan Arnold wrote:
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> Wilson is not the law of the land. He is not in a position to enforce his
r> eligious symbolism literally on the country. Only people that wish to
follo> w his words do, not by force.
>  
> There seems to be a deep sense of confusion amongst some liberals between
r> eligious symbolism and an actual judge and government forcing an 8 year
old>  girl to marry a 40-something year old man.
>  
> As a Christian, I believe, and my religious leaders will tell me, to honor
> my Mother and Father, and I willfully try to do so. However, they are not
a> dvocating that it be law that I do whatever my parents tell me to do as an
> adult.
>  
> I don't know Wilson theology, but I am sure he is against 8 year old girls
> being forced to marry and do whatever a 40 year old man tells her to do. I
> am sure he is also against the buying and selling of people as property.
Bu> t even if he wasn't, who cares, he isn't in a position, or seeking a
positi> on, to enforce it. I am concerned with those that are being forced right
no> w, and an ancient system of governing that is operates serious injustices
a> gainst people, especially women and children.
>  
> Best Regards,
>  
> Donovan
>  
> 
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