[Vision2020] Polar Amplification Predicted by Early Climate Modeling Programs: Now Well Verified

[Joe Campbell]

All I meant was that you couldn't do a single test on the thesis, not  
that it was unsupported by evidence.

Joe Campbell

On Apr 5, 2009, at 7:12 PM, Ted Moffett <starbliss at gmail.com> wrote:

> Joe Campbell wrote:
>
> http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2009-April/062709.html
>
> It isn't as if you could test global warming anyway. Any tests would  
> have to be done on
> some aspect of the theory and I imagine such tests are being done.
>
> Joe Campbell
>
> ---------------------
> Do you wish to retract your statement, given your rather puzzling  
> assertion that "It isn't as if you could test global warming  
> anyway." assuming you accept the validity of the scientific  
> information presented below from NOAA on the scientific efforts  
> regarding "testing" global warming theory, that have been ongoing  
> for decades?  There is a compelling reason that the IPCC issues  
> definitive statements regarding the future impacts of anthropogenic  
> climate change:  The theory has been tested for decades.  I am  
> astonished that an academic of your standing would write such an  
> irresponsible statement about one of the most important scientific  
> issues of our time.
>
> Ted Moffett
> ---------------------
>
> NOAA 200th Top Tens: Breakthroughs: The First Climate Model
>
> Testing the Notion of Global Warming
>
> Two scientists from the Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory, Drs.  
> Syukuro Manabe and Kirk Bryan, published the model results in 1969.  
> By the 1970s, general circulation models emerged as a central tool  
> in climate research. Dr. Manabe and Mr. Dick Wetherald later used  
> this original model to simulate the first three-dimensional  
> experiment to test the notion of global warming.  Their  
> groundbreaking results were published in 1975.
> -------------------
>
> The First Climate Model
>
> http://celebrating200years.noaa.gov/breakthroughs/climate_model/welcome.html
> --------------------
>
> To accommodate growth in the size of model outputs, NOAA has  
> invested in a computing infrastructure that can hold 2,000 terabytes  
> (or two million gigabytes) of data.  With this capacity, scientists  
> now have the ability to store global climate data on a weekly or  
> even daily basis to investigate climate change.
>
> -------------------
>
> Computer models have long predicted that the climate change will  
> affect Arctic and subarctic regions earlier and more dramatically  
> than other parts of the world.  Recent studies show marked increases  
> in temperature and many other climate variables across much of the  
> far north. Observed trends in surface air temperature from 1960-1990  
> (shown above in degrees centigrade) demonstrate "polar amplification 
> ,” with largest temperature increases (shown in red and magenta) occ 
> urring near the North Pole.
>
> ------------------------------------------
>
> Vision2020 Post: Ted Moffett
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/attachments/20090405/ef25d9bd/attachment-0001.html