[Vision2020] SarahPalin's Church Speech: US Troops Sent To Do God'sWill

Thu Sep 11 18:35:29 PDT 2008

Why do you keep calling him Barry, Gary?

Sunil

From: jampot at roadrunner.com
To: starbliss at gmail.com; lfalen at turbonet.com
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:26:13 -0700
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] SarahPalin's Church Speech: US Troops Sent To Do	God'sWill

Having listened to Mrs. Palin's speech and having 
read the transcript, it's clear that you are missing the point she was trying to 
make entirely. In no way did she say that "our leaders were sending our 
troops to do God's will." What she actually said was:

  "Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is 
  right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are 
  sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God, That's what we have to 
  make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is 
  God's plan."

What she was asking for was for her audience to pray for 
our troops, our country, and that our leaders were making the right decisions by 
sending our troops (U.S. soldiers) into harms way. (That there IS A PLAN and 
that plan is God's plan) In other words on a task that is from God as opposed to 
from fallen and fallible man.

That this incredible amount of time and effort is being expended 
throwing everything including the kitchen sink at Governor Palin in a desperate 
effort to find some small thing with which to damage her doesn't speak very 
highly of Barry's campaign. If she were truly the insignificant and corrupt 
little mayor from Podunk that everyone on the left was making her out to be this 
amount of noise would be quite unnecessary. That the libs can speak of nothing 
else speaks volumes.

g
----- Original Message ----- 

  From: 
  Ted Moffett 

  To: lfalen 
  Cc: vision2020 
  Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 1:14 
  PM
  Subject: [Vision2020] SarahPalin's Church 
  Speech: US Troops Sent To Do God'sWill

  Roger et. al.

  For those who have missed it, here again is a link to a YouTube video of 
  Sarah Palin's Wasilla, Alaska church speech, where she discusses our leaders 
  sending our troops to do "God's will:"

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG1vPYbRB7k&feature=related
  -------------------------------

  Roger, thanks for your response.

  We sometimes don't agree.  But you have never resorted to 
  personal insults to undermine my posts.

  Republican Mitt Romney was governor of one of the most "liberal" and 
  Democratic states, Massachusetts, with a huge budget, which he was 
  instrumental in managing wisely.  He is a smart 
  businessperson.  He is far more qualified than Sarah Palin as McCain's VP 
  choice, but I wonder if he was even seriously considered.  I would be 
  much happier with him as a Republican presidential candidate, for that matter, 
  than McCain.  But I think his Mormon background was a major negative as a 
  candidate, which it should not have been.  Yet witness Sarah Palin's 
  disturbing statements about US troops being sent to do "God's will," which do 
  not appear to be seriously negatively impacting her popularity.  As if 
  "God" is in the business of waging war?  This is scary thinking...

  Ted Moffett

On 9/8/08, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> 
  wrote:
  Ted
You 
    have some good points here. You are probably right that someone who does not 
    belong to a mainstream religion would not be elected. As for me I don't care 
    what there religion is or if they have one. It is they basic philosophy and 
    and values that I am interested in.
Roger
-----Original 
    message-----
From: "Ted Moffett" starbliss at gmail.com
Date: Sun, 07 
    Sep 2008 02:45:24 -0700
To: vision2020 vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: 
    [Vision2020] Separation Of Church And State Marginalized: SarahPalin's 
    Church Speech

> Respect for the separation of church and state is 
    not an
> essential criteria that McCain considered when choosing a 
    vice presidential
> candidate, given Sarah Palin's explicit linking of 
    her religion and the
> goals of government.  In fact, given 
    the realities of US politics at this
> time in history, any candidate 
    for president or vice president must
> announce, and back up by 
    action, they are a devout Christian, or they will
> have a limited 
    chance of election.  Witness Obama's repeated insistence 
    he
> is not Muslim, his emphasis on his Christian faith, and the 
    attacks, by
> those wishing to undermine his campaign, that he has a 
    Muslim background.
>
> Does anyone realistically think a Muslim, 
    Buddhist, Hindu, Wiccan, Atheist
> or Agnostic, would have a chance of 
    election as president?  Mitt Romney is
> far more qualified 
    than McCain as CEO of the US, yet who doubts his Mormon
> heritage, 
    viewed by many Christians as questionably "Christian," was a
> 
    negative?  Or that any presidential candidate would choose 
    someone
> representing those other spiritual orientations listed, as a 
    VP candidate?
> Certainly Obama's choice of devout Catholic Joe Biden 
    for VP supports this
> theory, though I trust Biden supports the 
    separation of church and state
> more than it appears Palin 
    does.
>
> Religion dominates the US political 
    landscape.  It is more prejudicial for a
> candidate for the 
    presidency or VP to be other than Christian as a religious
> 
    orientation, than it is for the candidate to be of a "racial" minority, 
    or
> of the female gender. * *
> **
> *I suppose this is 
    some sort of progress!*
>
> Religion is a dominate form of 
    prejudice in politics.  No, I am not offering
> exhaustive 
    research at this time to back up this claim... I have offered
> 
    exhaustive research to this list on other issues, and it is ignored 
    and
> mocked by those with an irrational bias.  Nonetheless, 
    this claim appears to
> have merit.  Why else does Karl Rove 
    tailor Republican strategy aimed at
> earning the Christian 
    evangelical vote, certainly a partial reason to choose
> 
    Palin?
>
>

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG1vPYbRB7k&feature=related
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