[Vision2020] 9/11
Paul Rumelhart
godshatter at yahoo.com
Fri Sep 5 20:44:35 PDT 2008
Conspiracy theories about 9/11 cover the whole spectrum. They cover
most of the ground between a bit of knowledge that might have led them
to know it was coming yet they did nothing to a full-blown orchestrating
of events.
Anyone with any doubts about any aspect of what happened on 9/11 is
immediately a "truther". My own personal take on it is that most of the
physical-based theories are based on misunderstandings of physics. Such
as the hole in the Pentagon allegedly not being large enough to be a
commercial plane, to some of the odd phenomena that happened as the
towers went down.
On the other hand, there was a lot of chicanery and odd events that are
not really explained. Flying out the Bin Laden family when the rest of
the country was under a "no-fly" order. Airline stock being shorted in
large numbers right before it happened. Some strange things heard by
officials about Building 7 before it came down. Some odd planes flying
around in the news coverage, and some other things I can't quite remember.
I think the American people are being beaten down with the concept that
everything is black and white. You're either a patriot or you're a
"truther" or a terrorist. The truth, as always, is more complicated
than that.
Besides, the fear that 9/11 engendered in our population has already
been used to further at least one major war as well as a whole host of
civil rights abuses. I think it's high time we stop using it as a hammer.
Paul
Jeff Harkins wrote:
> Throw out the barb - then duck the issue.
> Here is a Wikipedia link to 911 conspiracy theories. You might find
> it informative.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories
>
>
>>> It is modern history and yet, already we have groups within our borders
>>> which attempt to persuade us that 911 was a government conspiracy. '
>>>
>> Don't look at me. Look across the water in Minneapolis, at the Ron
>> Paul paraconvention.
>>
>
> Same old name calling - an example of your basic human decency?
>
>
>>> And the notion that political parties should not utilize video to
>>>
>> engage Americans
>>
>>> in a reminder of the event is naive at best.
>>>
>> The notion that a political party should not use a great American
>> tragedy as a political cudgel is basic human decency, a concept about
>> which your Torture Party seems to have entirely forgotten.
>> Unfortunately, after the last six years, it appears to be naive to
>> expect them not to.
>>
>
> Oh, I was on the record for each of those things ... where were you?
>
>
>>> And your hypocrisy is so blatant - your "world view" is so
>>>
>> skewed. Where is
>>
>>> your "outrage" at the bilge spewed by Michael Moore. Why have you not
>>> condemned MoveOn.org for their endorsement of his film during the 2004
>>> presidential campaign.
>>>
>> Not this again. Here, let me give the 'condemn this!' game a try. Why
>> haven't I ever heard you condemn the Watergate break-in? Isn't it a
>> little suspicious that you've never said anything negative about the
>> Holocaust? Where's your outrage at Swift Boat Veterans for Truth?
>>
>> Now, Jeff, why aren't you on the record saying anything bad about any
>> of these things? Hint: it wasn't the topic of our conversation*.
>>
>
> Given your feelings about the opening video for the RNC, it would
> perhaps enlightening for you to view the Fahrenheit 911 movie and its
> role in the 2004 elections.
>
> And if you are not a member of MoveOn.org, are you aware of it and
> its role in advancing the candidacy of Barack Obama?
>
>
> No - I'm done!
>
>
>> * Oh, and just in case he brings it up again: blah blah blah, pro
>> forma denunciation of a group I'm not a member of and their support of
>> a movie I've never seen.
>>
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