[Vision2020] Have to be sure who was waterboarded

[lfalen]

Nick
I'll grant that there can be a lot of disinformation, but that is not a reason to forgo it. As I have said before I hope that is what I would do, if I were in that position. I have only supported it in extreme situations where there is a possibility of gaining information that might save lives. I believe that is a more moral positon than if not doing so  miight result if in the death of an untold number of people.  As to coming clean that would also apply to your positon on abortion.
How about going back to something we can basicly agree on , such as China ad Tibet.
Roger
-----Original message-----
From: nickgier at adelphia.net
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:00:46 -0700
To: lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Subject: Re: Have to be sure who was waterboarded

> Hi Roger:
> 
> Thanks for identifying two of the three, but you have not demonstrated that Khalid Sheikh Mohammad provided any actionable intelligence.  Just repeating the Bush administration's claim that they did does not cut it, especially after its track record.
> 
> What came out of Mohammad's interrogation was a long list of confessions, many of which he could not possibly had anything to do with.  Here is one paragraph from Wikipeida.
> 
> One CIA official cautioned that "many of Mohammed's claims during interrogation were 'white noise' designed to send the U.S. on wild goose chases or to get him through the day's interrogation session." For example according to Michigan Rep. Mike Rogers, a former FBI agent and the top Republican on the terrorism panel of the House Intelligence Committee, he has admitted responsibility for the Bali nightclub bombing, but his involvement "could have been as small as arranging a safe house for travel. It could have been arranging finance.” Mohammed also made the admission that he was "responsible for the 1993 World Trade Center Operation", which killed six and injured more than 1,000 when a bomb was detonated in an underground garage, Mohammed did not plan the attack, but he may have supported it. Dr. Michael Welner noted that by offering legitimate information to interrogators, Mohammed had secured the leverage to provide disinformation as well.[47]
> 
> Getting you to come clean about waterboarding as illegal and immoral is not BS.  This is something that previous U.S. governments prosecuted both Americans and Japanese for.  Were they mistaken in following both moral and international law?  I'm shocked by your stubbornness on this issue.
> 
> Thanks for the dialogue,
> 
> Nick
> Nick 
> Three have been three people that the Bush Administration has acknowledged being 
> weatherboarded. Zubaydah, Khalid Sheikh Mohammad and one other. The one I am 
> referring to is KSM. He is thought bo be to organizer of 9/11 and also 
> personally beheaded Daniel Pearl. 
> Roger 
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