[Vision2020] Gov. Palin Foreign Policy Experience
Tom Hansen
thansen at moscow.com
Mon Sep 1 06:12:33 PDT 2008
Alaska . . . where the temperature is cold and the governor is hot.
Seeya round town, Moscow.
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
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> Excellent points, Shawn. It's been a real hoot to hear the Republicans
> try to defend Palin as the most experienced of any particular VP
possibilit> y, more so than Obama and Biden, just as they did a few years
ago with
> "the most experienced jurist in the land, Clarence Thomas," and Dan
Qua> yle, for whom "handsome" was supposed to cover a multitude of
political
a> nd intellectual failings.
>
> As Doug Wilson says, though, she is pretty ("a pippin"), and,
quoti> ng him further, she has the "hot school marm"-loving vote locked up.
>
> Keely
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> From: shawnc at outtrack.com
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:56:51 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Gov. Palin Foreign Policy Experience
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> For every label that says Palin has "executive
> experience" and Obama does not, the opposite can be said of "national
> experience". Which does a president need more of? But either of
> these are just labels or titles - you must look more deeply because
"experi> ence"
> is a very ambiguous term.
>
> For Obama's "present" votes in Illinois, voting
> "present" in Illinois isn't the same a voting present in other states -
if
> that
> state even allows for such a vote. In Illinois, voting "present" is
the>
> counted the same as voting "no".
>
> Palin: 20 months as governor of the 3rd least
> populous state in the US, before that a part time mayor and city
councilw> oman
> for a town of less than 9,000; Obama: Senator for the 5th most
populous> state in
> the US for a little less than 4 years where he has written 890 bills and
> cosponsored 1096, before that state legislator for again the 5th most
pop> ulous
> state on the country for 7 years where he sponsored over 820 bills, and
t> aught
> constitutional law for 12 years at the University of Chicago Law
School.
> Before her being named to McCain's ticket, the talk of her was moving UP
> to
> Senator or Alaska's lone House Representative.
>
> She has a BA in Sports Journalism which would
> disqualify her for being considered for most school principal or other
exec> utive
> positions. Obama has BA in International Relations from Columbia
University> .. He
> later graduated with a Juris Doctor (J.D.) magna cum laude from Harvard
in
> 1991.
> That’s top of his class at arguably the best school in the
country/world.> While
> at Harvard he was also president of the Harvard Law Review.
>
> My questions to McCain-
> How did you determine that she was the best
> choice when only meeting with her once and talking to her once or
> twice?
> If you wanted a female running-mate, why did
> you not choose the more experienced Kay Bailey Hutchison?
> If Obama had chosen someone like Palin, what
> would you be saying about her?
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> Shawn
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> From: Jeff Harkins
> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 8:15 AM
> To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
>
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Gov. Palin Foreign Policy
> Experience
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> Neither does the President. Remember Donovan, the President
> proposes, the Congress disposes.
>
> I have been unable to document Obama's
> genius. Perhaps you could lead me to his peer-reviewed writings on the
> Constitution and international law.
>
> As to Palin, she does seem to
> have an impressive record in dealing with corruption in her state. That
> suggests to me an ability to get things done. Taking on a status quo
and
> prevailing - that is significant.
>
> I agree with you that leadership is
> important, but leadership has many dimensions. IMHO, Obama has yet
to>
> reveal himself. If press reports are accurate, Obama voted present
some>
> 163 times as a state legislator. His record as a Senator is equally
> dismal. Again, if press reports are accurate, he has spent the
majority> of his
> time as a senator running to be a presidential candidate - most of his
effo> rts
> prior to the primary season were all on our nickel. Many of his past
> affiliations are disturbing - Ayers, Wright, etc. And so on and so on.
>
> It
> is shaping up to be an interesting race - and McCain/Palin seem to be
holdi> ng
> their own. And from the vitriolic and unfounded assertions being tossed
aro> und
> right here in our own river city, I can safely predict that by the time
t> he
> rhetoric ends and the votes begin, there will be virtually no stone
> unturned. We will all have a pretty good idea about all four
candidates.
> Exciting huh!
>
> See ya on the stump DJ.
>
> At 10:44 PM 8/30/2008, you
> wrote:
>
> Palin has zero foreign policy
> experience. She has no authority as a governor to conduct
international
> treaties or regulate international commerce.
>
> Obama is not much
> more experienced than Palin. But Obama is a genius, has a JD degree
fro> m
> Harvard, and degree from Columbia. He is an expert on the
constitution> ,
> international law, and has been able to do something that no other
pers> on has,
> politically defeat the Clintons in an election. Other countries love
Obam> a,
> they have never even heard of Palin. Obama commands crowds ten times
the
> size
> of the town Palin governed. How long someone has sat in a chair or held
a>
> position is not the skill set needed to be President. Leadership is the
m> ost
> important aspect of a President, and Obama has that in spades.
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Donovan
>
> --- On Sat,
> 8/30/08, Jeff Harkins <jeffh at moscow.com> wrote:
>
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> From: Jeff Harkins <jeffh at moscow.com>
>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Gov. Palin Foreign Policy Experience
>
> To: "Chasuk" <chasuk at gmail.com>
>
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>
> Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 10:29 PM
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> Thanks! You have such a way with words and such respect
> for your
>
> neighbors. Perhaps you have spent entirely too much time in
> Warcraft.
>
>
> My mistake on your European heritage. From a correspondence a
> year
>
> or so ago, I had been led to believe that you transmigrated from
>
> Europe to US. You have made several references to how much you
>
> prefer Europe to the US. It does make me wonder, if you love
> the UK
>
> so much, why are you here?
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> At 08:28 PM 8/30/2008, you wrote:
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> >On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 20:09, Jeff Harkins
> <jeffh at moscow.com> wrote:
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> >
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> > > Obviously better training than you, and common sense just
> comes as
>
> part of
>
> > > our kit - but then you are European, huh!
>
> >
>
> >I'm European? Since when? I'd better get my passport
> changed.
>
> >
>
> > > To my Canadian friends, the author of the original message
> does not
>
> > > represent the views of most Americans. We have
> absolute respect for
>
> your
>
> > > sovereignty, for your peaceful demeanor and for the
> opportunity to
>
> trade
>
> > > with you.
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> >
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> >I have great respect and affection for Canadians, I just don't
> have
>
> >any respect for your idiocy.
>
> >
>
> >Chas
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