[Vision2020] If the shoe was on the other foot (was A Plea to Saundra Lund)

[Paul Rumelhart]

Glenn Schwaller wrote:
> Or the losing of "civil liberties"?  It's already in the making -
> "redistribution of the wealth" without consent - seems to me my
> involuntary giving of $$ to lazy, unmotivated slugs is a slight on my
> liberties.  Being forced to provide some government-mandated health
> care plan not of my choosing to my employees?  Smacks of a loss of
> freedom to me.  Having to accept that health care plan or nothing?
> Huh.  No "choice" there.  A mandate to give up my $$ to provide a
> college education to someone I don't know (apart from the GI Bill
> which I gladly support)?  Hmmm . . .  more loss of choice to me.  I
> say let them earn their way through as Dr Joe and I did and let ME
> decide who to give MY $$ to.
>   

Mr. Schwaller.  Really, listen to yourself.  In this age of torture, 
waterboarding, rendition, illegal wiretaps, infiltration of harmless 
political groups, free speech zones, loss of habeus corpus and other 
such nonsense, you're saying that having to pay taxes is an erosion of 
your civil liberties?  Honestly?  Don't you pay taxes right now?

Paul

> Yep - real hogwash there my friend.
>
> GS
>
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Sunil Ramalingam
> <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> Glenn,
>>
>> Since your scenario is hogwash, I'm certain I won't have to say "So What?"
>>
>> Sunil
>>
>>     
>>> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:42:22 -0700
>>> From: vpschwaller at gmail.com
>>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>> Subject: [Vision2020] If the shoe was on the other foot (was A Plea to
>>> Saundra Lund)
>>>
>>> I have no doubt that if it was shown President Bush or Senator McCain
>>> had any kind of connection whatsoever to Mark Rudd, John Jacobs, Bill
>>> Ayers, Jim Mellen, Terry Robbins,
>>> Karen Ashley, Jeff Jones, Gerry Long, Steve Tappis, Mark Rudd or David
>>> Gilbert you people would be screaming impeach impeach impeach,
>>> invalidate, invalidate, invalidate as loudly as your collective voices
>>> would allow.
>>>
>>> Perhaps the "youthful indiscretions" of Ayers, Dohrn, Thomas Good,
>>> Carl Davidson, Mike Klonsky et al. could be forgiven and forgotten as
>>> just that if they were to offer even a modicum of repentance and
>>> regret for their past behaviors. Unfortunately, their current stand
>>> is "the only thing we regret we didn't do more then, and we'd love to
>>> do more now". So yes Mr Rumelhart, I believe there is quite a bit to
>>> fear, and my greatest fears are that when more-likely-than-not
>>> President Obama begins to tear this country apart it's going to make
>>> the loss of "civil liberties" under the Bush administration look like
>>> chump change, and those who proudly put Obama there will say exactly
>>> what they say now: "So what".
>>>
>>> GS
>>>
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