[Vision2020] Obama cancels interview with a Free (not in the tank) Press

keely emerinemix kjajmix1 at msn.com
Mon Oct 27 19:39:40 PDT 2008


Is it at all possible for you to imagine, if only for a second, that everything in the world doesn't somehow refer back to you?

Keely
http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/


> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:43:43 -0400
> From: no.weatherman at gmail.com
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Obama cancels interview with a Free (not in the	tank) Press
> 
> Ms. Mix:
> 
> As usual, you're lying.
> 
> And, as usual, you have extenuating circumstances.
> 
> Can you please show me where I argued "we now have the social safety
> net afforded by taxes being equated not only with theft and innate
> anti-Godliness, but now sociopathy"?
> 
> Or did you get another freebase rush of self-righteousness by
> misrepresenting me to make yourself look holy?
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 3:25 PM, keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yep, we now have the social safety net afforded by taxes being equated not
> > only with theft and innate anti-Godliness, but now sociopathy . . . by
> > church folks.  Christians, even.
> >
> > Strange days, indeed.
> >
> > Keely
> > http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> >> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 08:11:36 -0800
> >> From: no.weatherman at gmail.com
> >> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Obama cancels interview with a Free (not in the
> >> tank) Press
> >>
> >> Dave:
> >>
> >> I'll make this simple because I do not want to tax your few remaining
> >> brains cells too much
> >>
> >> You have to establish the boundaries of government, which includes
> >> their authority to tax, before you declare a free for all.
> >>
> >> Paul feels perfectly comfortable when the government takes from others
> >> who are wealthier than he is but I have sneaking suspicion that his
> >> comfort zone would soon be violated if the state came knocking on his
> >> door.
> >>
> >> As for you, you probably feel morally superior to me because of the
> >> overwhelming generosity you display with other people's money. As for
> >> sociopaths, maybe you should consider your lack of compunction when it
> >> comes to stealing from others.
> >>
> >> I would empathize with you but I'm afraid that's a moral trait I desire.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 10/27/08, Dave <tiedye at turbonet.com> wrote:
> >> > It is entirely obvious that no clue is totally devoid of empathy.
> >> > Therefore, of course, a sociopath.
> >> >
> >> > Dave
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Paul Rumelhart wrote:
> >> > > Are you really trying to equate a non-linear tax model as "socialism"?
> >> > > That's a stretch, in my opinion. Everyone is still paying taxes,
> >> > > except
> >> > > for the very poorest of us. The percentages just change.
> >> > >
> >> > > I also don't like the implication that the rich "earned it and deserve
> >> > > it". That would imply that the poor and the middle class did not earn
> >> > > it or deserve it. That, fundamentally, is why I can't stand the
> >> > > position you are taking. You appear to think that just because you've
> >> > > been lucky (yes, lucky) enough to make good money, you deserve it more
> >> > > than the next guy. There are just as many hard-working poor and middle
> >> > > class people as there are hard-working privileged people, if not more.
> >> > >
> >> > > As for the fear that Obama will raise taxes for everyone eventually,
> >> > > well, someone has to take responsibility and pay back the enormous
> >> > > debt
> >> > > that the current administration has heaped on us, don' t you think?
> >> > > Especially if we intend to continue the nationalizing of banks that
> >> > > the
> >> > > current administration has started.
> >> > >
> >> > > Paul
> >> > >
> >> > > No Weatherman wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >>> Actually, it's called paying a portion of what you make to a central
> >> > >>> pool
> >> > >>> which will be used to take care of things no one person wants to
> >> > >>> take care
> >> > >>> of. Things like roads, military defense, social security, research,
> >> > >>> education, health care, the national debt, disaster relief,
> >> > >>> veteran's
> >> > >>> benefits, and the occasional crackhead and/or welfare queen that
> >> > >>> gets away
> >> > >>> with gaming the system.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >> You need to distinguish between tax-based necessities and tax-based
> >> > >> socialism. Crackheads and welfare queens are not in the same category
> >> > >> as roads, defense, vet's benefits, etc.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> The "minority" has been getting away with murder for longer than you
> >> > >>> or I
> >> > >>> have been around. They've been sipping mai-tais in Hawaii and
> >> > >>> complaining
> >> > >>> that their new Beemer has a scratch on the fender. They don't arouse
> >> > >>> all
> >> > >>> that much pity from me. They can survive a tax hike far more easily
> >> > >>> than
> >> > >>> the other 95% of us can.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >> Strawman notwithstanding, if they earned it they deserve it.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> And the moment you arbitrarily draw the line at Hawaiian vacations
> >> > >> and
> >> > >> Beemers, you've invited the Obamas of the world (socialists) to move
> >> > >> that line anywhere they want.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Do you know where they want to move it?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Last I heard Obama floated $250,000 and you and I both know that's
> >> > >> not
> >> > >> low enough to finance his vision.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> It doesn't matter, though, because you've already given him
> >> > >> permission
> >> > >> to take other people's money so he can redistribute it to the
> >> > >> crackheads.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> So he'll nudge it down to $200,000. Then $150,000. Then $100,000. And
> >> > >> before you know it, somewhere in there he found our bracket. He'll
> >> > >> find Ms. Lund's bracket. He'll find Ms. Mix's bracket. He'll find Mr.
> >> > >> London's bracket. He'll find Mr. Hansen's rubber doll's bracket.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Once you give him permission to redistribute wealth, it won't stop at
> >> > >> $250,000.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Obama doesn't want "rich" people's money. He wants everyone's money.
> >> > >> He's a Farraking Communist.
> >> > >>
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