[Vision2020] Obama cancels interview with a Free (not in the tank) Press

No Weatherman no.weatherman at gmail.com
Mon Oct 27 17:43:43 PDT 2008


Ms. Mix:

As usual, you're lying.

And, as usual, you have extenuating circumstances.

Can you please show me where I argued "we now have the social safety
net afforded by taxes being equated not only with theft and innate
anti-Godliness, but now sociopathy"?

Or did you get another freebase rush of self-righteousness by
misrepresenting me to make yourself look holy?


On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 3:25 PM, keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:
>
> Yep, we now have the social safety net afforded by taxes being equated not
> only with theft and innate anti-Godliness, but now sociopathy . . . by
> church folks.  Christians, even.
>
> Strange days, indeed.
>
> Keely
> http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/
>
>
>> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 08:11:36 -0800
>> From: no.weatherman at gmail.com
>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Obama cancels interview with a Free (not in the
>> tank) Press
>>
>> Dave:
>>
>> I'll make this simple because I do not want to tax your few remaining
>> brains cells too much
>>
>> You have to establish the boundaries of government, which includes
>> their authority to tax, before you declare a free for all.
>>
>> Paul feels perfectly comfortable when the government takes from others
>> who are wealthier than he is but I have sneaking suspicion that his
>> comfort zone would soon be violated if the state came knocking on his
>> door.
>>
>> As for you, you probably feel morally superior to me because of the
>> overwhelming generosity you display with other people's money. As for
>> sociopaths, maybe you should consider your lack of compunction when it
>> comes to stealing from others.
>>
>> I would empathize with you but I'm afraid that's a moral trait I desire.
>>
>>
>> On 10/27/08, Dave <tiedye at turbonet.com> wrote:
>> > It is entirely obvious that no clue is totally devoid of empathy.
>> > Therefore, of course, a sociopath.
>> >
>> > Dave
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Paul Rumelhart wrote:
>> > > Are you really trying to equate a non-linear tax model as "socialism"?
>> > > That's a stretch, in my opinion. Everyone is still paying taxes,
>> > > except
>> > > for the very poorest of us. The percentages just change.
>> > >
>> > > I also don't like the implication that the rich "earned it and deserve
>> > > it". That would imply that the poor and the middle class did not earn
>> > > it or deserve it. That, fundamentally, is why I can't stand the
>> > > position you are taking. You appear to think that just because you've
>> > > been lucky (yes, lucky) enough to make good money, you deserve it more
>> > > than the next guy. There are just as many hard-working poor and middle
>> > > class people as there are hard-working privileged people, if not more.
>> > >
>> > > As for the fear that Obama will raise taxes for everyone eventually,
>> > > well, someone has to take responsibility and pay back the enormous
>> > > debt
>> > > that the current administration has heaped on us, don' t you think?
>> > > Especially if we intend to continue the nationalizing of banks that
>> > > the
>> > > current administration has started.
>> > >
>> > > Paul
>> > >
>> > > No Weatherman wrote:
>> > >
>> > >>> Actually, it's called paying a portion of what you make to a central
>> > >>> pool
>> > >>> which will be used to take care of things no one person wants to
>> > >>> take care
>> > >>> of. Things like roads, military defense, social security, research,
>> > >>> education, health care, the national debt, disaster relief,
>> > >>> veteran's
>> > >>> benefits, and the occasional crackhead and/or welfare queen that
>> > >>> gets away
>> > >>> with gaming the system.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >> You need to distinguish between tax-based necessities and tax-based
>> > >> socialism. Crackheads and welfare queens are not in the same category
>> > >> as roads, defense, vet's benefits, etc.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>> The "minority" has been getting away with murder for longer than you
>> > >>> or I
>> > >>> have been around. They've been sipping mai-tais in Hawaii and
>> > >>> complaining
>> > >>> that their new Beemer has a scratch on the fender. They don't arouse
>> > >>> all
>> > >>> that much pity from me. They can survive a tax hike far more easily
>> > >>> than
>> > >>> the other 95% of us can.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >> Strawman notwithstanding, if they earned it they deserve it.
>> > >>
>> > >> And the moment you arbitrarily draw the line at Hawaiian vacations
>> > >> and
>> > >> Beemers, you've invited the Obamas of the world (socialists) to move
>> > >> that line anywhere they want.
>> > >>
>> > >> Do you know where they want to move it?
>> > >>
>> > >> Last I heard Obama floated $250,000 and you and I both know that's
>> > >> not
>> > >> low enough to finance his vision.
>> > >>
>> > >> It doesn't matter, though, because you've already given him
>> > >> permission
>> > >> to take other people's money so he can redistribute it to the
>> > >> crackheads.
>> > >>
>> > >> So he'll nudge it down to $200,000. Then $150,000. Then $100,000. And
>> > >> before you know it, somewhere in there he found our bracket. He'll
>> > >> find Ms. Lund's bracket. He'll find Ms. Mix's bracket. He'll find Mr.
>> > >> London's bracket. He'll find Mr. Hansen's rubber doll's bracket.
>> > >>
>> > >> Once you give him permission to redistribute wealth, it won't stop at
>> > >> $250,000.
>> > >>
>> > >> Obama doesn't want "rich" people's money. He wants everyone's money.
>> > >> He's a Farraking Communist.
>> > >>
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