[Vision2020] Palin STILL Doesn't "Get" the Role of a VP
keely emerinemix
kjajmix1 at msn.com
Wed Oct 22 11:52:30 PDT 2008
And I really enjoy McCain campaign manager Rick Davis and professional GOP moralizer Bill Bennett tell me, a woman and a feminist, why I don't like Palin -- which, Bennett says, is because she's very pretty, successful, and happy.
Yeah.
I hate when people are happy. I have utter contempt for the good looking. And I'm seething with hormonal rage at her successes.
And I thought guys like Rick 'n Bill couldn't understand me . . .
Keely
http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/
> From: debismith at moscow.com
> To: sslund_2007 at verizon.net; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:37:35 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Palin STILL Doesn't "Get" the Role of a VP
>
> Sad. Just sad. And I thought the worst possible female ever elected to
> public office was helen Chenowith. Oh, honey, was i wrong! This woman is a
> ninny and a fool, and doesn't even have Helen's (irrational) belief system
> to back her up. She's just plain dumb. As a feminist, asd a woman, as a
> thinking human, I say "Stop her before she reoffends!".
> Debi R-S
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Saundra Lund" <sslund_2007 at verizon.net>
> To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 8:04 PM
> Subject: [Vision2020] Palin STILL Doesn't "Get" the Role of a VP
>
>
> > Strike four for Palin on V.P. description
> > The governor is still clueless about what the vice president does
> > SPECIAL COMMENT
> > By Keith Olbermann
> > Anchor, 'Countdown'
> > updated 2:12 p.m. PT, Tues., Oct. 21, 2008
> >
> > I suggested last night that until the election, we could very easily wind
> > up
> > doing a Special Comment here every show.
> >
> > It was in turn suggested to me that while events may warrant them, this
> > would certainly render that word "Special" for two weeks anyway
> > inoperative.
> >
> > Good point. So tonight, as promised, a Campaign Comment on the continuing
> > adventures of Governor Sarah Palin in the big leagues or "Are You Smarter
> > Than A Third Grader."
> >
> > Q: Finally governor we've been trying to engage some local grade schoolers
> > for the last few elections. We do a feature called 'questions from the
> > third
> > grade.' Brandon Garcia wants to know, "What does the Vice President do?"
> >
> > PALIN: Aw, that's something that Piper would ask me, as a second grader,
> > also. That's a great question, Brandon, and a Vice President has a really
> > great job, because not only are they there to support the President
> > agenda,
> > they're like a team member, the teammate to that President. But also,
> > they're in charge of the United States Senate, so if they want to they can
> > really get in there with the Senators and make a lot of good policy
> > changes
> > that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom.
> > And
> > it's a great job and I look forward to having that job.
> >
> > Oh! I'm so sorry, Governor! The correct answer can be found in the
> > Constitution of the United States.
> >
> > Article One, Section Three- "The Vice President of the United States shall
> > be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally
> > divided." So, the Vice President is not in charge of Jack, Governor, let
> > alone in charge of the Senate. And you are not smarter than a
> > third-grader.
> >
> > On the one level it is hilarious and entertaining that the Republican
> > nominee cannot correctly answer the question "What Does The Vice President
> > Do?" I mean, that first reference to the Vice President comes not 600
> > words
> > into the Constitution. And the other meaty references are pretty simple:
> >
> > Article Two, Section One -"In case of the removal of the President from
> > Office, or of his death, resignation, or inability to discharge the Powers
> > and Duties of the said Office, the same shall devolve on the Vice
> > President."
> >
> > There's the 20th Amendment- you're done on January 20th and the 25th
> > Amendment -if the President's incapacitated, you're the acting Pres. It's
> > so
> > simple, really, one could memorize those four points pretty easily
> > wouldn't
> > take long.
> >
> > Brandon Garcia could do it in the third grade. So, on the one level, this
> > is
> > pretty damn silly. The Sarah Palin material, as Tina Fey might be able to
> > say, just writes itself. As it does, it makes stupid mistakes, but it
> > still
> > writes itself.
> >
> > Except there are two very serious aspects to this. Governor, do you really
> > think you'd be "in charge of the United States Senate?" Do you really want
> > to suggest that you think if you "want to" you "can really get in there
> > with the Senators and make a lot of good policy changes?"
> >
> > We're just wrapping up eight years of a Vice President who had no clue
> > what
> > his damned job consisted of, couldn't even correctly find his governmental
> > branch with both hands.
> >
> > The last thing anybody in this country wants, Republican or Democrat, is
> > another Buccaneer in there, making it up as they go along, and, in your
> > case, presuming you can stride in to the Senate and change policy if you
> > want to! Besides which, Governor, exactly how on earth could you not have
> > the correct answer by now?
> >
> > It's not like this is the first time you've been asked about the Vice
> > Presidency and gone all Miss South Carolina on us.
> >
> > LARRY KUDLOW: Is this police-flap state investigation going to disqualify
> > you from becoming Senator McCain's vice presidential candidate?
> > PALIN: As for that VP talk all the time, I'll tell you, I still can't
> > answer
> > that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP
> > does every day? I'm used to being very productive and working real hard in
> > an administration. We want to make sure that that VP slot would be a
> > fruitful type of position, especially for Alaskans and for the things that
> > we're trying to accomplish up here for the rest of the U.S., before I can
> > even start addressing that question.
> >
> > That was on the 31st of July on CNBC, Governor. Even giving you the
> > biggest
> > benefit of the doubt, that your later claim that that was just a lame
> > attempt at a joke you couldn't come up with the correct job description on
> > the second try? What am I saying? The third try!
> >
> > GWEN IFILL (OCTOBER 2, 2008): Governor, you said in July that someone
> > would
> > have to explain to you exactly what it is the vice president does every
> > day.
> > PALIN: In my comment there, it was a lame attempt at a joke and yours was
> > a
> > lame attempt at a joke, too, I guess, because nobody got it...Of course we
> > know what a vice president does. And that's not only to preside over the
> > Senate and will take that position very seriously also. I'm thankful that
> > the Constitution would allow a bit more authority given to the vice
> > president if that vice president so chose to exert it in working with the
> > Senate and making sure that we are supportive of the president's policies
> > and making sure too that our president understands what our strengths are.
> > No! No, Governor, the Constitution does not allow "a bit more authority"
> > "if
> > the vice president so chose to exert it in working with the Senate..." You
> > would not be some kind of Senatorial Hall Monitor. You would not be a
> > Veto,
> > or a Censor, or a Balance.
> >
> > And even if you think you would somehow obtain those powers from somebody,
> > don't pretend the Constitution will give them to you!
> >
> > PALIN: That thankfully, our founders were wise enough to say, we have this
> > position and it's Constitutional. Vice presidents will be able to be not
> > only the position flexible, but it's going to be sort of those other
> > duties
> > as assigned by the president. It's a simple thing. I don't think that was
> > a
> > gaff at all in stating what the truth is. And that is we've got
> > flexibility
> > in the position. The president will be directing in a lot of respects what
> > the vice president does. The vice president, of course, is not a member-or
> > a
> > part of the legislative branch, except to oversee the Senate. That alone
> > provides a tremendous amount of flexibility and authority if that vice
> > president so chose to use it.
> > You're wrong! You've memorized everything else, Governor. You couldn't
> > memorize the job description in three months? Four tries? I mean, I'd like
> > my President and Vice President to have memorized the Constitution, and
> > abide by it. Or at least, I'd like them to know more about the
> > Constitution
> > than I do. Or than Brandon Garcia does. Maybe I'm raising the bar too high
> > but at least wait until you achieve office before trying to seize power
> > extra-Constitutionally!
> >
> > "The founders" were not George Bush and Dick Cheney! Gimme something to
> > work
> > with here, Governor or go home! And don't forget to take your lovely
> > parting
> > gifts with you. Including the Home Version of The Vice President Game.
> >
> > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27310526/
> >
> >
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