[Vision2020] Palin STILL Doesn't "Get" the Role of a VP

[No Weatherman]

Ms. Mix:

You have delineated numerous reasons in this forum why you
envy/despise Gov Palin though none of them make sense or are logically
consistent.

The fact is that you're such a cold, unfeeling, hypocritical, and
self-righteous person who masks her frigidity behind "justice" and
"compassion" that you are, in all likelihood, personally responsible
for glaciating global warming on the planet.

I can't possibly understand why you would need "Rick 'n Bill."


On 10/22/08, keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:
>
>  And I really enjoy McCain campaign manager Rick Davis and professional GOP
> moralizer Bill Bennett tell me, a woman and a feminist, why I don't like
> Palin -- which, Bennett says, is because she's very pretty, successful, and
> happy.
>
> Yeah.
>
> I hate when people are happy.  I have utter contempt for the good looking.
> And I'm seething with hormonal rage at her successes.
>
> And I thought guys like Rick 'n Bill couldn't understand me . . .
>
> Keely
> http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/
>
>
> > From: debismith at moscow.com
> > To: sslund_2007 at verizon.net; vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:37:35 -0800
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Palin STILL Doesn't "Get" the Role of a VP
> >
> > Sad. Just sad. And I thought the worst possible female ever elected to
> > public office was helen Chenowith. Oh, honey, was i wrong! This woman is a
> > ninny and a fool, and doesn't even have Helen's (irrational) belief system
> > to back her up. She's just plain dumb. As a feminist, asd a woman, as a
> > thinking human, I say "Stop her before she reoffends!".
> > Debi R-S
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Saundra Lund" <sslund_2007 at verizon.net>
> > To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 8:04 PM
> > Subject: [Vision2020] Palin STILL Doesn't "Get" the Role of a VP
> >
> >
> > > Strike four for Palin on V.P. description
> > > The governor is still clueless about what the vice president does
> > > SPECIAL COMMENT
> > > By Keith Olbermann
> > > Anchor, 'Countdown'
> > > updated 2:12 p.m. PT, Tues., Oct. 21, 2008
> > >
> > > I suggested last night that until the election, we could very easily
> wind
> > > up
> > > doing a Special Comment here every show.
> > >
> > > It was in turn suggested to me that while events may warrant them, this
> > > would certainly render that word "Special" for two weeks anyway
> > > inoperative.
> > >
> > > Good point. So tonight, as promised, a Campaign Comment on the
> continuing
> > > adventures of Governor Sarah Palin in the big leagues or "Are You
> Smarter
> > > Than A Third Grader."
> > >
> > > Q: Finally governor we've been trying to engage some local grade
> schoolers
> > > for the last few elections. We do a feature called 'questions from the
> > > third
> > > grade.' Brandon Garcia wants to know, "What does the Vice President do?"
> > >
> > > PALIN: Aw, that's something that Piper would ask me, as a second grader,
> > > also. That's a great question, Brandon, and a Vice President has a
> really
> > > great job, because not only are they there to support the President
> > > agenda,
> > > they're like a team member, the teammate to that President. But also,
> > > they're in charge of the United States Senate, so if they want to they
> can
> > > really get in there with the Senators and make a lot of good policy
> > > changes
> > > that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom.
> > > And
> > > it's a great job and I look forward to having that job.
> > >
> > > Oh! I'm so sorry, Governor! The correct answer can be found in the
> > > Constitution of the United States.
> > >
> > > Article One, Section Three- "The Vice President of the United States
> shall
> > > be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be
> equally
> > > divided." So, the Vice President is not in charge of Jack, Governor, let
> > > alone in charge of the Senate. And you are not smarter than a
> > > third-grader.
> > >
> > > On the one level it is hilarious and entertaining that the Republican
> > > nominee cannot correctly answer the question "What Does The Vice
> President
> > > Do?" I mean, that first reference to the Vice President comes not 600
> > > words
> > > into the Constitution. And the other meaty references are pretty simple:
> > >
> > > Article Two, Section One -"In case of the removal of the President from
> > > Office, or of his death, resignation, or inability to discharge the
> Powers
> > > and Duties of the said Office, the same shall devolve on the Vice
> > > President."
> > >
> > > There's the 20th Amendment- you're done on January 20th and the 25th
> > > Amendment -if the President's incapacitated, you're the acting Pres.
> It's
> > > so
> > > simple, really, one could memorize those four points pretty easily
> > > wouldn't
> > > take long.
> > >
> > > Brandon Garcia could do it in the third grade. So, on the one level,
> this
> > > is
> > > pretty damn silly. The Sarah Palin material, as Tina Fey might be able
> to
> > > say, just writes itself. As it does, it makes stupid mistakes, but it
> > > still
> > > writes itself.
> > >
> > > Except there are two very serious aspects to this. Governor, do you
> really
> > > think you'd be "in charge of the United States Senate?" Do you really
> want
> > > to suggest that you think if you "want to" you "can really get in there
> > > with the Senators and make a lot of good policy changes?"
> > >
> > > We're just wrapping up eight years of a Vice President who had no clue
> > > what
> > > his damned job consisted of, couldn't even correctly find his
> governmental
> > > branch with both hands.
> > >
> > > The last thing anybody in this country wants, Republican or Democrat, is
> > > another Buccaneer in there, making it up as they go along, and, in your
> > > case, presuming you can stride in to the Senate and change policy if you
> > > want to! Besides which, Governor, exactly how on earth could you not
> have
> > > the correct answer by now?
> > >
> > > It's not like this is the first time you've been asked about the Vice
> > > Presidency and gone all Miss South Carolina on us.
> > >
> > > LARRY KUDLOW: Is this police-flap state investigation going to
> disqualify
> > > you from becoming Senator McCain's vice presidential candidate?
> > > PALIN: As for that VP talk all the time, I'll tell you, I still can't
> > > answer
> > > that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the
> VP
> > > does every day? I'm used to being very productive and working real hard
> in
> > > an administration. We want to make sure that that VP slot would be a
> > > fruitful type of position, especially for Alaskans and for the things
> that
> > > we're trying to accomplish up here for the rest of the U.S., before I
> can
> > > even start addressing that question.
> > >
> > > That was on the 31st of July on CNBC, Governor. Even giving you the
> > > biggest
> > > benefit of the doubt, that your later claim that that was just a lame
> > > attempt at a joke you couldn't come up with the correct job description
> on
> > > the second try? What am I saying? The third try!
> > >
> > > GWEN IFILL (OCTOBER 2, 2008): Governor, you said in July that someone
> > > would
> > > have to explain to you exactly what it is the vice president does every
> > > day.
> > > PALIN: In my comment there, it was a lame attempt at a joke and yours
> was
> > > a
> > > lame attempt at a joke, too, I guess, because nobody got it...Of course
> we
> > > know what a vice president does. And that's not only to preside over the
> > > Senate and will take that position very seriously also. I'm thankful
> that
> > > the Constitution would allow a bit more authority given to the vice
> > > president if that vice president so chose to exert it in working with
> the
> > > Senate and making sure that we are supportive of the president's
> policies
> > > and making sure too that our president understands what our strengths
> are.
> > > No! No, Governor, the Constitution does not allow "a bit more authority"
> > > "if
> > > the vice president so chose to exert it in working with the Senate..."
> You
> > > would not be some kind of Senatorial Hall Monitor. You would not be a
> > > Veto,
> > > or a Censor, or a Balance.
> > >
> > > And even if you think you would somehow obtain those powers from
> somebody,
> > > don't pretend the Constitution will give them to you!
> > >
> > > PALIN: That thankfully, our founders were wise enough to say, we have
> this
> > > position and it's Constitutional. Vice presidents will be able to be not
> > > only the position flexible, but it's going to be sort of those other
> > > duties
> > > as assigned by the president. It's a simple thing. I don't think that
> was
> > > a
> > > gaff at all in stating what the truth is. And that is we've got
> > > flexibility
> > > in the position. The president will be directing in a lot of respects
> what
> > > the vice president does. The vice president, of course, is not a
> member-or
> > > a
> > > part of the legislative branch, except to oversee the Senate. That alone
> > > provides a tremendous amount of flexibility and authority if that vice
> > > president so chose to use it.
> > > You're wrong! You've memorized everything else, Governor. You couldn't
> > > memorize the job description in three months? Four tries? I mean, I'd
> like
> > > my President and Vice President to have memorized the Constitution, and
> > > abide by it. Or at least, I'd like them to know more about the
> > > Constitution
> > > than I do. Or than Brandon Garcia does. Maybe I'm raising the bar too
> high
> > > but at least wait until you achieve office before trying to seize power
> > > extra-Constitutionally!
> > >
> > > "The founders" were not George Bush and Dick Cheney! Gimme something to
> > > work
> > > with here, Governor or go home! And don't forget to take your lovely
> > > parting
> > > gifts with you. Including the Home Version of The Vice President Game.
> > >
> > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27310526/
> > >
> > >
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