[Vision2020] Questions for No. Weatherman

[No Weatherman]

I assumed that you've seen all the footage of Obama describing his
relationship with Wright. If not, let me know and I'll find the links
because their relationship was/is much more than the vanilla bond you
describe. These two were joined at the hip and Wright warned Obama
when he took him under his wing that he had a bad reputation as a
radical. It was not your ordinary "Good morning, pastor, how are you
today" relationship.

Listen closely.

Obama attended a radically anti-American and virulently anti-Semitic
church for 20 years where the pastor regularly had spasmodic fits in
front of the camera, screaming his ugly doctrines into the microphone
and whipping the audience into a riotous frenzy.

I have a very serious problem with this because it tells me that
either Obama adhered to his church's teaching and applauded the man in
the pulpit with the rest of the audience or else he just enjoyed
hearing racist pigs go on rants on Sunday mornings.

That's the point I'm driving home.

Obama sat through those sermons week after week, and now he expects us
to believe that he never heard any of it.

Which is it? He never heard it — or he's just saying he never heard it
for political expediency's sake?



On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 8:31 PM, Chasuk <chasuk at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 16:45, No Weatherman <no.weatherman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  I believe the onus is on you to explain Obama's unique
>> relationship with Wright.
>
>> That's the point I'd like to exhaust.
>
> Unique relationship?  Tens of thousands of pastors have had, or have,
> similar relationships with congregants.  There is nothing "unique" to
> explore, let alone exhaust.
>
> I was a Christian for a long time, and I went to church for a long
> time.  I understand what motivates people to attend, and it isn't
> always the reason or reasons that they would profess.  Some do it
> because they are lonely.  Some do it because they believe they have to
> or they will burn in hell.  Some do it out of habit.  Some do it
> because they can't bear the disapproval of friends or family who
> attend for reasons of their own.  Some do it because church can be an
> important center of social interactivity.  Some do it to rub elbows
> with the upwardly-mobile.  Some do it because they are publicly minded
> and know that there are plenty of opportunities to involve themselves
> in charitable works at most churches.  Some do it to advance their
> political aspirations.  Some do it out of deep faith.  The majority do
> it for a combination of these reasons.
>
> I don't know why Obama attended.  I'm presuming -- not alleging or
> claiming -- that he went for the reasons that the majority do.
>
> I have friends and family who have crazy ideas that I don't share.  A
> few of my friends have ideas that have grown increasingly repugnant
> over the years.  If they had been as crazy as they are now when we
> met, they would not have become my friends.  If I was running for
> President -- even of the PTA -- I might have to distance myself from
> them because of their ideas.
>
> I think that wraps up the Wright non-mystery pretty nicely.
>