[Vision2020] The Odd Lies Of Sarah Palin I: Firing Monegan
lfalen
lfalen at turbonet.com
Mon Oct 20 14:08:01 PDT 2008
Tom
I did not lie. Repeating something that you think is true and retracting it when you find ot that it is not, is not lying. If it is you are guilty of a lot of it. I am sure that if I had the time I could go back though the archives and find plenty of time where you have been less than truthful. These kinds of personals attacks are ar reflection of you, no one else. Please argue the facts as you understand them and or opinions and leave out the personal insults.
Roger
-----Original message-----
From: Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:21:10 -0700
To: Sunil Ramalingam sunilramalingam at hotmail.com, Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Odd Lies Of Sarah Palin I: Firing Monegan
> Sunil -
>
> I am simply presenting an incident in Roger Falen's past that reflects his
> willingness to lie to achieve a certain goal.
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
>
> >
> > I'm not convinced there's a great deal of evidentiary value in old,
> dead> , beaten horses.
> >
> > Sunil
> >
> > > To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > From: thansen at moscow.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Odd Lies Of Sarah Palin I: Firing Monegan
> > > Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:12:33 +0000
> > >
> > > Sunil -
> > >
> > > I referenced the Shirley Ringo/National Anthem incident to reflect
> > > on "past crimes". I am sure that you, as an attorney, understand
> the>
> > > evidentiary value of presenting a person's history of past crimes.
> > >
> > > Tom Hansen
> > > Moscow, Idaho
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Tom,
> > > >
> > > > I think it's fair to ask Roger to substantiate his claim re. Ayers.
> Bu> t
> > > si> nce he's apologized for the accusation about Shirley, I think
> maybe> we
> > > co> uld leave that out from now on. Asides from inventing a time
> machine>
> > > and
> > > c> hanging the past, I'm not sure he can do anything else about it now.
> > > >
> > > > Sunil
> > > >
> > > > > To: lfalen at turbonet.com; sslund_2007 at verizon.net;
> > > vision2020 at moscow.c> om
> > > > > From: thansen at moscow.com
> > > > > Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:34:19 +0000
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Odd Lies Of Sarah Palin I: Firing
> Moneg> an
> > > > >
> > > > > I am afraid that I am going to have to call you on this one, Roger.
> > > > >
> > > > > Care to share with the Viz your indisputable proof that Barack
> Obama>
> > > > > announced his candidacy for the Illinois state senate from Ayers'
> > > house?
> > > > >
> > > > > Or is this just another Shirley-Ringo-didn't-stand-for-the
> > > National-Anthe> m
> > > > > claim of yours?
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom Hansen
> > > > > Moscow, Idaho
> > > > >
> > > > > > Taking about lies. Obama said in his debate with McCain that he
> did
> > > not>
> > > > > launch his
> > > > > political career in Bill Ayees home. It is well documented that he
> > > > > announced his plans to
> > > > > run for the sate senate at a fundraiser in Bill Ayers home.
> > > > > > Roger
> > > > > > -----Original message-----
> > > > > > From: "Saundra Lund" sslund_2007 at verizon.net
> > > > > > Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:05:08 -0700
> > > > > > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > > > > Subject: [Vision2020] The Odd Lies Of Sarah Palin I: Firing
> Monegan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Atlantic
> > > > > > > The Daily Dish
> > > > > > > Andrew Sullivan
> > > > > > > 18 Oct 2008 08:07 am
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Odd Lies Of Sarah Palin I: Firing Monegan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This weekend, I'll be re-posting all the factual untruths that
> > > Sara> h
> > > > > Palin
> > > > > > > insists are still actually truths. I've updated each item to
> keep
> > > up>
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > the new information that has come out since the original
> posting.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm doing this because Sarah Palin's contribution is to
> introduce> a
> > > n> ew
> > > > > > > level of detachment from reality to our politics. After
> > > Bush-Cheney> ,
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > would be hard for anyone. But youbetcha she can.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This has been the pattern from the start of her career: a
> denial>
> > > of
> > > > > reality
> > > > > > > combined with an almost unhinged and unlimited ambition. Since
> th> e
> > > > > press is
> > > > > > > barred from questioning her thoroughly, since we will never
> kno> w
> > > ho> w
> > > > > she
> > > > > > > responds to the long list of untruths she has told - from the
> > > smalles> t
> > > > > > > biographical detail to the biggest policy - all I can do is
> remin> d
> > > my
> > > > > > > readers of the record one more time before November. There are
> > > ninete> en
> > > > > > > assertions of factual untruths that I've been able to document.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We'll start at the beginning, and Troopergate.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The key issue is whether she used her state office to pressure
> th> e
> > > > > public
> > > > > > > safety commissioner to fire her ex-brother-in-law. Here's what
> sh> e
> > > > > stated on
> > > > > > > the record in mid-July if this year:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Palin stated on July 17 that Monegan was not pressured to fire
> > > Wooten> ,
> > > > > nor
> > > > > > > dismissed for not doing so:[114][117] "To allege that I, or any
> > > mem> ber
> > > > > of my
> > > > > > > family . . . directed disciplinary action be taken against any
> > > > > employee of
> > > > > > > the Department of Public Safety, is, quite simply,
> > > outrageous.">
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Here's Wikipedia's account of the findings of the Branchflower
> > > Report> ,
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > links to the original sources:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On October 10, 2008, the Alaska Legislative Council
> unanimous> ly
> > > v> oted
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > release, without officially endorsing,[135] the Branchflower
> > > Repo> rt in
> > > > > which
> > > > > > > Stephen Branchflower found that firing Monegan "was a proper
> and
> > > lawf> ul
> > > > > > > exercise of her constitutional and statutory authority,"[136]
> a> nd
> > > t> hat
> > > > > Palin
> > > > > > > abused her power as governor by violating the state's Executive
> > > Branc> h
> > > > > > > Ethics Act[137] when her office pressured Monegan to fire
> Wooten.
> > > The>
> > > > > report
> > > > > > > stated that "Governor Palin knowingly permitted a situation to
> > > contin> ue
> > > > > > > where impermissible pressure was placed on several subordinates
> i> n
> > > > > order to
> > > > > > > advance a personal agenda, to wit: to get Trooper Michael
> Woote> n
> > > > > > > fired."[138] The report also said that Palin "permitted Todd
> Pali> n
> > > to>
> > > > > use
> > > > > > > the Governor's office [...] to continue to contact subordinate
> > > state
> > > > > > > employees in an effort to find some way to get Trooper Wooten
> > > > > > > fired."[138][139]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The eventual report found that she was within her legal rights
> to
> > > fir> e
> > > > > > > Monegan, but that her unethical persecution of her ex
> > > brother-in-la> w
> > > > > was a
> > > > > > > contributing factor to the firing. The report found her guilty
> of>
> > > > > abuse of
> > > > > > > power and violation of Alaska's Ethics Act.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/the-
> > > odd-
> > > > > lies--7
> > > > > > > .html
> > > > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > > - Marilyn Trail, sister of Representative Tom trail (September 8,
> > > 200> 8)
> > > > >
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> > > > > "We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The
> > > colle> ge
> > > > > students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."
> > > > >
> > > > > - Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)
> > > > >
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> 200> 8)
> > >
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> > >
> > > "We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The
> colle> ge
> > > students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."
> > >
> > > - Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)
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>
> - Marilyn Trail, sister of Representative Tom trail (September 8, 2008)
>
> ----
>
> "We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college
> students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."
>
> - Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)
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