[Vision2020] A Plea to Visionaires

[Saundra Lund]

Roger,

I think you're completely wrong on this.  I think what Tom and many, many,
many other forum members really object to is the ***quantity*** of the
troll's posts.  The anonymous coward made it clear from the beginning that
he wasn't interested in honest dialogue or debate but rather in simply
hurling invective and insulting those who disagree with him.  When someone
pointed out to him that the convention in the V2020 living room was to try
to limit posts to 2-3 per day, he said he'd post as much as he wanted.  And,
he's proceeded to do so:  just in October, he's posted OVER THREE HUNDRED
TIMES.  Get a clue:  he's nothing more than a cowardly rude troll with an
agenda to disrupt and destroy this forum with his invective.

While I refuse to interact with nameless cowards, I also refuse to allow
this troll to turn this COMMUNITY forum into his own one-sided playground.
Only when it became undeniable that the troll has absolutely no respect for
the way the V2020 community works did I start standing up to the bully by
posting news from the other side, and even then, my "count" is still way
under a hundred for this month -- and barely over a daily average of three
posts per day.  And, I'll add that I've received more than a few offlist
responses from folks all along the political spectrum thanking me for the
articles I've been posting in response to the troll's firestorm.

I see your subsequent post where you suggest that people apply Donovan's
(joking or not) suggestion about dealing with the troll's record posting
frequency by doing the same to me.  Shame on you, Roger -- you've been
around here long enough to know that I am a genuine participant who has
posted according to our "on our honor" posting guidelines for years now.

I do find it telling that you once again come out in defense of those with
whom you agree while ignoring their multitude transgressions and insults
against those with whom you disagree.

So, what -- if any -- suggestions do you have to deal with trolls like the
one trick pony No Weatherman's attempts to take over this forum for his own
anti-Obama agenda by posting OVER THREE HUNDRED TIMES in fewer than 20 days?
He's drowning out legitimate conversation and driving away list members and
their participation in this COMMUNITY forum, which is indisputably one of
his goals.

Yes, you're completely wrong Roger -- those of us who object to the cowardly
anonymous troll's attempt to take over this forum would be just as
frustrated by the volume regardless of the topic or political direction.


Saundra Lund
Moscow, ID

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
nothing.
~ Edmund Burke

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-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of lfalen
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 11:09 AM
To: No Weatherman; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] A Plea to Visionaires

Tom apparently only wants left wing views to be aired. Anything else is
racist and profane. I would like Ton to demonstrate where No Wheathermans
posts have been any more objectionable than  some of his. I submit that they
are objectionable and profane because he disagrees with  the veiws
expressed. No Wheatherman seems to me to do a petty good job of
documentation when listing facts. Everyone have the right to an
opinion(within reason) without documentation as long as it not presented as
fact.
Roger