[Vision2020] Election Fraud

Dave tiedye at turbonet.com
Mon Oct 13 11:23:05 PDT 2008


Here's ACORN's statement, I was going to look up the actual law, but I 
decided that you weren't worth the effort.

Dave
/*

"Fact:*/ ACORN has implemented the most sophisticated quality-control 
system in the voter engagement field but in almost every state we are 
required to turn in ALL completed applications, even the ones we know to 
be problematic.

/*Fact:*/ ACORN flags in writing incomplete, problem, or suspicious 
cards when we turn them in,. Unfortunately, some of these same officials 
then come back weeks or months later and accuse us of deliberately 
turning in phony cards. In many cases, we can actually prove that these 
are the same cards we called to their attention.

/*Fact:*/ Our canvassers are paid by the hour, not by the card . ACORN 
has a zero-tolerance policy for deliberately falsifying registrations, 
and in the cases where our internal quality controls have identified 
this happening we have fired the workers involved and turned them in to 
election officials and law-enforcement.

/*Fact:*/ No criminal charges related to voter registration have ever 
been brought against ACORN or partner organizations. Convictions against 
individual former ACORN workers have been accomplished with our full 
cooperation, using the evidence obtained through our quality control and 
verification processes - evidence which in most cases WE called to the 
attention of authorities

/*Fact:*/ Most election officials have recognized ACORN's good work and 
praised our quality control systems. Even in the cities where election 
officials have complained about ACORN, the applications in question 
represent less than 1% of the thousands and thousands of registrations 
ACORN has collected.

/*Fact:*/ Our accusers not only fail to provide any evidence, they fail 
to suggest a motive: there is virtually no chance anyone would be able 
to vote fraudulently, so there is no reason to deliberately submit phony 
registrations. ACORN is committed to ensuring that the greatest possible 
numbers of people are registered

ACORN will not be intimidated, we will not be provoked, and in this 
important moment in history we will not allow anyone to distract us from 
these vital efforts to empower our constituencies and our communities to 
speak for themselves"


No Weatherman wrote:
> Dave:
>
> You're arguing that once ACORN commits fraud by registering dead
> voters, they have a legal obligation to submit those fraudulent
> registrations to the state.
>
> I didn't think it was possible for this to sink any lower but you have
> surpassed my expectations.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Dave <tiedye at turbonet.com> wrote:
>   
>> WRONG, ACORN is required by law to submit all registrations that they
>> gather, even if it says Daffy Duck, they also flag those registrations as
>> fraudulent.  So they submit the properly flagged fraudulent registrations
>> and then get in trouble for doing so.
>>
>> Even if they missed flagging some it's small potatoes compared to a private
>> (and Republican) company purging 100's of thousands of mostly Democratic
>> already registered voters.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> No Weatherman wrote:
>>     
>>> Dave:
>>>
>>> Anyone who thinks that registering dead people to vote is not election
>>> fraud should be stripped of their first amendment rights as well as
>>> all their other liberties for self protection sake.
>>>
>>> Therefore, please accept my sincere gratitude for taking a few moments
>>> from your busy schedule to confirm my initial opinion of you. I do not
>>> see where you have anything "intelligent" to offer to this or any
>>> other conversation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:08 PM, KRFP <krfp at radiofreemoscow.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> This weekend we broadcasted probably the most complete and intelligent
>>>> interview about election fraud that I have ever heard.   I strongly
>>>> encourage everyone to listen to this if you missed it.
>>>>
>>>> Sonali interviews Brad of BradBlog (if you haven't heard of him, you
>>>> should), and they cover lots of things that aren't ever mentioned on the
>>>> non-independent media.  They also cover why the ACORN thing is NOT
>>>> election fraud.
>>>>
>>>> http://uprisingradio.org/home/
>>>>
>>>> It's twenty minutes that will shake up your faith in democracy
>>>> regardless of which side you are on.
>>>>
>>>> Mr. NO, I challenge you to listen.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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