[Vision2020] Election Fraud

No Weatherman no.weatherman at gmail.com
Mon Oct 13 13:52:29 PDT 2008


Dave:

Thanks for posting ACORN's statement.

Can you tell us if it was written by a non-existent person, a dead
man, or just someone with no legitimate address.



On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Dave <tiedye at turbonet.com> wrote:
> Here's ACORN's statement, I was going to look up the actual law, but I
> decided that you weren't worth the effort.
>
> Dave
> /*
>
> "Fact:*/ ACORN has implemented the most sophisticated quality-control
> system in the voter engagement field but in almost every state we are
> required to turn in ALL completed applications, even the ones we know to
> be problematic.
>
> /*Fact:*/ ACORN flags in writing incomplete, problem, or suspicious
> cards when we turn them in,. Unfortunately, some of these same officials
> then come back weeks or months later and accuse us of deliberately
> turning in phony cards. In many cases, we can actually prove that these
> are the same cards we called to their attention.
>
> /*Fact:*/ Our canvassers are paid by the hour, not by the card . ACORN
> has a zero-tolerance policy for deliberately falsifying registrations,
> and in the cases where our internal quality controls have identified
> this happening we have fired the workers involved and turned them in to
> election officials and law-enforcement.
>
> /*Fact:*/ No criminal charges related to voter registration have ever
> been brought against ACORN or partner organizations. Convictions against
> individual former ACORN workers have been accomplished with our full
> cooperation, using the evidence obtained through our quality control and
> verification processes - evidence which in most cases WE called to the
> attention of authorities
>
> /*Fact:*/ Most election officials have recognized ACORN's good work and
> praised our quality control systems. Even in the cities where election
> officials have complained about ACORN, the applications in question
> represent less than 1% of the thousands and thousands of registrations
> ACORN has collected.
>
> /*Fact:*/ Our accusers not only fail to provide any evidence, they fail
> to suggest a motive: there is virtually no chance anyone would be able
> to vote fraudulently, so there is no reason to deliberately submit phony
> registrations. ACORN is committed to ensuring that the greatest possible
> numbers of people are registered
>
> ACORN will not be intimidated, we will not be provoked, and in this
> important moment in history we will not allow anyone to distract us from
> these vital efforts to empower our constituencies and our communities to
> speak for themselves"
>
>
> No Weatherman wrote:
>> Dave:
>>
>> You're arguing that once ACORN commits fraud by registering dead
>> voters, they have a legal obligation to submit those fraudulent
>> registrations to the state.
>>
>> I didn't think it was possible for this to sink any lower but you have
>> surpassed my expectations.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Dave <tiedye at turbonet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> WRONG, ACORN is required by law to submit all registrations that they
>>> gather, even if it says Daffy Duck, they also flag those registrations as
>>> fraudulent.  So they submit the properly flagged fraudulent registrations
>>> and then get in trouble for doing so.
>>>
>>> Even if they missed flagging some it's small potatoes compared to a private
>>> (and Republican) company purging 100's of thousands of mostly Democratic
>>> already registered voters.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>> No Weatherman wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dave:
>>>>
>>>> Anyone who thinks that registering dead people to vote is not election
>>>> fraud should be stripped of their first amendment rights as well as
>>>> all their other liberties for self protection sake.
>>>>
>>>> Therefore, please accept my sincere gratitude for taking a few moments
>>>> from your busy schedule to confirm my initial opinion of you. I do not
>>>> see where you have anything "intelligent" to offer to this or any
>>>> other conversation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:08 PM, KRFP <krfp at radiofreemoscow.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> This weekend we broadcasted probably the most complete and intelligent
>>>>> interview about election fraud that I have ever heard.   I strongly
>>>>> encourage everyone to listen to this if you missed it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sonali interviews Brad of BradBlog (if you haven't heard of him, you
>>>>> should), and they cover lots of things that aren't ever mentioned on the
>>>>> non-independent media.  They also cover why the ACORN thing is NOT
>>>>> election fraud.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://uprisingradio.org/home/
>>>>>
>>>>> It's twenty minutes that will shake up your faith in democracy
>>>>> regardless of which side you are on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mr. NO, I challenge you to listen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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